List Digest, Vol 45, Issue 23

[Regina Sewell]

Peter,

Thanks for posting this about the article in Scientific American.  I 
agree.  I think that there's something we do that really replaces the 
memory.  And the timing is perfect.  Unfortunately, like you say, 
there's no way to "prove" it.  But then if you "prove" something, it's 
not science.....   It's really intersting if you pair this up with the 
ideas Daniel Seigal's presents in "The neurobiology of we" about the 
impact of attachment relationships a child has with his/her parent and 
the building or absence of neural connections and his hypothesis that 
people who at some point develop PTSD were likely to be children who had 
-- I believe it was disorganized attachment relationships with their 
parents -- like what happens when a child grows up in a family that has 
violence or that other wise lead the early attachment to a parent not 
safe.  And if you add this to the way memories are absorbed in 
particular brain wave states...  so that memories are much more readily 
"absorbed" in slower brain wave patterns states and add this to the fact 
that children's brain wave patterns are much slower, ergo they absorb 
much more than we do as adults (hence the amazing amount of information 
and skills children learn between birth and 6 years old) ...  I 
apologize - my brain is processing hypotheses and questions much quicker 
than my fingers can type...  but the over all gist is an added bonus of 
psychodrama -- we can help people go back to early memories in a trance 
state (which means their brain waves are probably slower, like when 
people undergo hypnosis) and re-experience the gist of the trauma and 
then have the reparative moment.

I suppose the "and" is that behaviorist research does not tap into this 
early stuff, nor did it (from what I read) screen for PTSD or attachment 
relationship stuff.  Hmmm.

Peace,
regina sewell, ph.d.


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> Hi all,
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> Here is a very interesting piece from Scientific American.
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> I am pretty sure that this research relates strongly to the work we do 
> in psychodrama groups. The work we do is at the opposite end of 
> complexity to what is being demonstrated in this research but we may 
> nevertheless meet in the middle at some distant future time. The 
> difficulty with our methods are that they are not easy to do 
> quantitative experiments with because the huge number of confounding 
> variables that should be accounted for. Thus a lot of outcomes 
> measures get used - such as "does it work?" "What does a successful 
> outcome look like and how is it measured" "Is it better than nothing" 
> or "Is it better than this or that therapy or approach". It requires 
> real ingenuity and creativity to develop research proposals that don't 
> work at either end of this complexity spectrum and cast light onto our 
> methods and perhaps extend the theories or develop new theories on the 
> matter.
> Cheers for now
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> Peter
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> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=how-to-erase-fear-in-humans&sc=CAT_MB_20100324
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