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  1. ADHD question (PATRICIA DESERT)
  2. Fw: RE: drama therapy (Adam Blatner)
  3. Fw: NADT 2010 Conference Proposal Submission Deadline
      Extended to    March 15th! (Adam Blatner)
  4. Re: ADHD question (Bud Weiss)
  5. 2 feet of snow in New York! (Adam Blatner)
  6. Re: ADHD question (Jenny Wilson)
  7. Re: ADHD question (Jenny Wilson)
  8. Re: ADHD question (Bud Weiss)
  9. alternative medicine (Adam Blatner)
  10. boundaries (Adam Blatner)

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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:16:48 -0500
From: PATRICIA DESERT <honeybwomn at msn.com>
To: grouptalk <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Subject: ADHD question
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Would the person who sent the information on the diet that supports elimination of ADHD symptoms in children please send it again.  I inadvertently deleted it.  Thanks.  Patti

Patti Desert, LCSW-C, CEMDR, CP Singular Pathways 208 East Melrose Avenue Baltimore, MD 21212 Phone: 410.435.3755 Fax: 410.435.0547 www.singular-pathways.com "from fears and tears to confidence and joy"

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From: Adam Blatner <ablatner at verizon.net>
To: Grouptalk <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Cc: RCrook at thechicagoschool.edu
Subject: Fw: RE: drama therapy
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Forwarding this to folks in the Northeast USA: 
    Perhaps you may network with this woman. 

--- On Tue, 2/23/10, Rebecca Crook <RCrook at thechicagoschool.edu> wrote:

> From: Rebecca Crook <RCrook at thechicagoschool.edu>
> Subject: RE: drama therapy
> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 2:13 PM
> Sure,
> I am a new clinician to the area completing my predoctoral
> internship in Clinical Psychology at The Child Guidance
> Center of Southern Connecticut.? I studied in Chicago,
> where I was introduced to the field of Drama therapy by Ted
> Rubenstein.? I completed my dissertation on the use of
> drama therapy techniques with sexually abused children and
> studied drama therapy at Ted's clinic Institute of Therapy
> Through the Arts.? I am trying to find a place to
> complete my post doctorate hours (starting in sept) where I
> will also be allowed to implement creative arts techniques
> and receive additional training in drama therapy and
> psychodrama.? Since I am new to New York, I do not know
> where to look for training opportunities, workshops,
> etc.? I would love to make connections with clinician,
> researcher, authors, educators, etc. in the field.? I
> am looking forward to developing a community here in the NY
> area as rich as the one I was exposed to in Chicago.
>  
> ~Rebecca? 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: Adam Blatner [mailto:ablatner at verizon.net]
> Sent: Fri 2/12/2010 3:12 PM
> To: Rebecca Crook
> Subject: Re: drama therapy
> 
> 
> 
> there's a lot of psychodrama in New York, and several folks
> who are into both drama
> therapy and psychodrama. If you write an email to introduce
> yourself, I'll forward it to
> some of these folks and maybe they'll tell you more about
> themselves. Warmly, Adam
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rebecca Crook" <RCrook at thechicagoschool.edu>
> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:59 PM
> Subject: RE: drama therapy
> 
> 
> >I live in Flushing, NY (Queens).? I will look into
> the conference.? Do you know of
> >anything local?
> >
> > Rebecca
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: Adam Blatner [mailto:ablatner at verizon.net]
> > Sent: Thu 2/11/2010 1:33 PM
> > To: Rebecca Crook
> > Subject: Re: drama therapy
> >
> >
> >
> > cleaning up, another thing. Let me know and I'll try
> to help yo be more connected.
> > Consider attending our national psychodrama conference
> in Philadelphia? mid April
> > www.asgpp.org
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rebecca Crook" <RCrook at thechicagoschool.edu>
> > To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:59 PM
> > Subject: RE: drama therapy
> >
> >
> >> Hi Dr. Blatner,
> >>
> >> It have not read your book, I will have to look
> into that.? My aspirations are not as
> >> clear right now as they were maybe a year
> ago.? Since moving to NY and away from all of
> >> my connections, I feel that I am lacking a strong
> mentor or anyone that shares my
> >> passion for drama therapy that can help foster my
> abilities and aspirations.? I am
> >> hoping to find a post doc in the fall or some
> place where I can learn more about
> >> psychodrama and drama therapy while accruing hours
> for licenser.? I understand this is
> >> unlikely, so I hope I will at least find some
> place where I can obtain additional
> >> training in drama therapy that I can attend to in
> addition to completing post doctorate
> >> work.
> >>
> >> My interests are in working with children and
> adolescents that are trauma survivors or
> >> have anxiety disorders.? I would like to
> integrate creative arts techniques into my
> >> practice as a clinical psychologist.? I also
> enjoy research and would like to bring
> >> more
> >> quantitative research to the field of drama
> therapy while bringing a more creative
> >> approach to the field of clinical
> psychology.? I hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Take care,
> >> Rebecca
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Adam Blatner [mailto:ablatner at verizon.net]
> >> Sent: Mon 2/8/2010 10:46 AM
> >> To: Rebecca Crook
> >> Subject: Re: drama therapy
> >>
> >> Hi Rebecca, so what do you plan to do with
> yourself in the next several years? Someone
> >> said you can learn more about a person from her
> aspirations than her accomplishments.
> >> If
> >> I
> >> can get a sense of goals perhaps I can be more
> helpful.
> >>? ? ? I'm interested in getting the
> best insights of drama and psychodrama integrated
> >> into
> >> everyday therapy beyond formal drama therapy and
> classical psychodrama. I think many of
> >> its insights have wider applications. Have you
> ever read my Foundations of Psychodrama?
> >>? ? ? ? ? warmly, Adam
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Rebecca Crook" <RCrook at thechicagoschool.edu>
> >> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:22 PM
> >> Subject: RE: drama therapy
> >>
> >>
> >> I will get my Psy.D, in Clinical Psychology from
> The Chicago school of professional
> >> psychology in June.? I have completed all
> coursework and defended my dissertation.? I
> >> am
> >> just finishing my internship.? I don't have a
> degree in drama therapy.? I have an
> >> undergraduate degree in theater and became
> interested in drama therapy through a
> >> creative
> >> arts therapy class and an independent study in
> drama therapy with Ted.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Adam Blatner [mailto:ablatner at verizon.net]
> >> Sent: Thu 2/4/2010 9:53 PM
> >> To: Rebecca Crook
> >> Subject: Re: drama therapy
> >>
> >> Did you get the degree? Was it granted? Yet? What
> degree? By what department? In what
> >> university?
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Rebecca Crook" <RCrook at thechicagoschool.edu>
> >> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:51 PM
> >> Subject: RE: drama therapy
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks so much for this feedback.? I will see
> what I can do and get back to you.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >>
> >> Rebecca
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Adam Blatner [mailto:ablatner at verizon.net]
> >> Sent: Mon 2/1/2010 11:50 AM
> >> To: Rebecca Crook
> >> Subject: Re: drama therapy
> >>
> >> RE: drama therapyHi Rebecca, there are several
> articles here:
> >>? ? 1. Simply describing more fully the
> techniques you used in the mid-last part of the
> >> dissertation and the info on appendix c (i
> think)... age of people in group, number of
> >> sessions, how long sessions were, how often. how
> you introduced techniques, pitfalls,
> >> ways
> >> they could be misued. People who want to develop
> their repertoire of techniques and
> >> skills
> >> could enjoy this.
> >>? ? 2. The dissertation as it stands is
> far, far too extensive to be published in a
> >> journal. Nor do I think anyone at this point would
> want it to be a book---it's a bit
> >> too
> >> narrow that way. Also, the first half of the
> dissertation is a review of the nature and
> >> psychology and general theories of treatment for
> trauma.
> >>? ? ? I appreciate the scholarship
> you've shown, and it puts you into a role that many
> >> drama therapists and psychodramatists haven't
> achieved, which is that you've really
> >> played
> >> the game of research. Did you get the degree? Was
> it granted? Yet? What degree? By what
> >> department? In what university?
> >>
> >>? ? 3. If you cut out most of the first
> part or reduced it to at most 2 pages, emphasize
> >> the middle and last, note the results, can do it
> in about 3000 words (!) maybe 5000 at
> >> most, you could submit it to the Journal of
> Creativity in Mental Health,? ? the Arts in
> >> Psychotherapy,? ? perhaps some other
> journals I haven't heard about.???Condense
> and
> >> edit.
> >> Most readers don't need to know all about
> trauma---that's okay for a dissertation, but
> >> ...
> >>
> >>? ? Do check out Kate Hudgins' recent
> books and articles about working with trauma. A
> >> whole book is in Press right now, an anthology of
> others doing this stuff.
> >>
> >>? ? Possibly you might also do a chapter
> for some book---that's another possibility. Are
> >> you in touch with Dr. Kate?
> >>? ? ? ? ? ? If not,
> give me 40 -70 word introduction (what you'd like me to say)
> and
> >> I'll
> >> email and say, I met Rebecca at a drama therapy
> conference and she shares many
> >> interests
> >> with your work. Please correspond with her.?
> ? I think she will, too.
> >>
> >>? ???Hope this has been
> encouraging. Warmly, Adam
> >>? ----- Original Message -----
> >>? From: Rebecca Crook
> >>? To: Rebecca Crook ; adam at blatner.com
> >>? Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:10 PM
> >>? Subject: RE: drama therapy
> >>
> >>
> >>? Hi Dr. Blatner,
> >>? I met you at the Drama therapy conference in
> San Francisco last year.? I was
> >> introduced
> >> to you by Dr. Ted Rubenstein and told you about my
> dissertation on drama therapy and
> >> sexual abuse.? I remember telling you I would
> send you my dissertation when I finished
> >> it
> >> to see if I could turn any of my research into an
> article.? I would greatly appreciate
> >> it
> >> if you would take a look at what I have and let me
> know what you think.???I will likely
> >> have to update some of my research from when I
> wrote this, but wanted you to look at it
> >> first.
> >>
> >>? Sincerely,
> >>
> >>? Rebecca Crook
> >>
> >>
> >>? -----Original Message-----
> >>? From: Rebecca Crook
> >>? Sent: Sun 11/16/2008 9:54 PM
> >>? To: adam at blatner.com
> >>? Subject: drama therapy
> >>
> >>? Dr. Adam Blatner,
> >>
> >>? It was a pleasure meeting you at the Drama
> Therapy Conference in San Francisco.? I am
> >> Dr. Rubenstein's student who was introduced to you
> during dinner.? (Sorry about the
> >> interruption).? I am excited that you seem
> interested in my dissertation on drama
> >> therapy,
> >> childhood sexual abuse, and dissociation.? I
> will certainly be contacting you when I am
> >> finished with it in the spring.? Once again,
> it was a pleasure meeting you and I hope
> >> this
> >> find you well.
> >>
> >>
> >>? Sincerely,
> >>
> >>? Rebecca Crook, M.A.
> >>? The Chicago School of Professional
> Psychology
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:23:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Adam Blatner <ablatner at verizon.net>
To: Grouptalk <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Subject: Fw: NADT 2010 Conference Proposal Submission Deadline
    Extended to    March 15th!
Message-ID: <852451.81911.qm at web84002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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--- On Mon, 3/1/10, Mary Hershkowitz <mary.hershkowitz at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> From: Mary Hershkowitz <mary.hershkowitz at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: NADT 2010 Conference Proposal Submission Deadline Extended to March 15th!
> To: DRAMATHERAPYLST at LISTSERV.KSU.EDU
> Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 10:04 PM
> The NADT 31st Annual
> Conference-November 4-7, 2010
> 
> Chicago, IL
> 
> *Pushing the Boundaries: *
> 
> *Contemplating the Liminal Space in Drama Therapy? *
> 
> 
> 
> Victor Turner defines the liminal space as a ?place where
> boundaries
> dissolve a little and we stand there, on the threshold,
> getting ourselves
> ready to move across the limits of what we were into what
> we are to be.?
> 
> 
> 
> At this year?s conference we invite you to explore the
> ways that we as a
> field of drama therapy are continuing to push the
> boundaries in our work.? How
> are we dissolving the boundaries between our field and
> other creative arts
> therapies, other disciplines, other technologies, and other
> world views? How
> are the current political and cultural climates
> transforming our field and
> work? In what ways does a seeming dissolution of boundaries
> shed light on
> new perspectives and understanding? How can we (or should
> we) measure,
> research or try to capture such flux and ambiguity? Are
> there some
> boundaries that should remain?? And why is the liminal
> space so powerful?
> 
> 
> 
> The possibilities are endless, the boundaries waiting to be
> expanded are
> limitless?.and we look forward to seeing you there in our
> mutual
> exploration.
> 
> 
> 
> The *new* deadline for all submissions is *March 15th,
> 2010*.
> 
> 
> 
> For further information on the conference and proposal
> submissions, please
> visit http://www.nadt.org
> 
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 00:01:08 -0500
From: Bud Weiss <bud.weiss at gmail.com>
To: PATRICIA DESERT <honeybwomn at msn.com>
Cc: grouptalk <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Subject: Re: ADHD question
Message-ID:
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You might want to check out the Nurtured Heart Approach and the books that
are listed on the site www.difficultchild.com Read the research page there
and you will see massive reductions in problem behaviors as well as all but
one student off of all drugs in one fairly large title one school within
less than two years after the school wide implementation of the Nurtured
Heart Approach. One of the books by Howard Glasser, the creator of Nurtured
heart is called "101 reasons to avoid Ritalin like the Plague."  Sandy
Newmark, MD, the pediatrician who worked closely with Andrew Weil among
others agrees with much of that book. http://www.doctornewmark.com/adhd.html

Newmark has many recommendations. Unfortunately, despite lectures I have
heard by him, he still holds out for Ritalin in some so called extraordinary
cases supported by an integrative approach.  He has not looked seriously at
breathing issues that I work with in having helped a number of students from
ages 8 up. Nor does he really look sufficiently into thyroid issues which I
am certain many of these children have. Counter intuitively, I believe they
are hypo not hyper thyroid and they are running on empty with adrenals
teetering on the verge of exhaustion. Environmental physicians like Doris
Rapp, MD, in her books describes so many chemical factors that contribute to
serious hyperactivity and how to avoid then as well as developing antidotes
for them.

Serious developments with nearly all of these can be avoided if the
children, most of whom are serious mouth breathers and often have malacluded
teeth as well due to mouth breathing--which you can learn about that at
http://orthodonticearlytreatment.com/index.php?home --- can be helped to
retrain their breathing, keeping their mouths shut doing simple supervised
appropriately increasing step exercises and proper reduced breathing for
several weeks and so many of them calm down from little more than that and
of course some modest and not radical restrictive improvements in their
diet. Newmark claims that if you go on a very clean totally organic diet for
3 weeks, you will clear more than 95% of all the toxic chemicals you have
stored in your body.  The children who have asthma are on medications that
produce hyperactivity. They are basically adrenalin type drugs. And then
there are the steroids which must be given regularly to protect the children
from the dangers of the adrenolin type meds like Albuterol or worse far
worse killers like the long acting Beta Agonists in Advair or Symbicort.

In Scotland, whole schools were addressed with the Buteyko Approach and the
changes were enormous in terms of the reduction of attentional deficits let
alone asthma. see Glasgow school children video here:
http://www.sleepingallnight.com/conference-videos.html#movie_start

<http://www.sleepingallnight.com/conference-videos.html#movie_start>Best of
luck with all. Be well, Bud Weiss

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:16 PM, PATRICIA DESERT <honeybwomn at msn.com> wrote:

>  Would the person who sent the information on the diet that supports
> elimination of ADHD symptoms in children please send it again.  I
> inadvertently deleted it.  Thanks.  Patti
>
> Patti Desert, LCSW-C, CEMDR, CP Singular Pathways 208 East Melrose Avenue
> Baltimore, MD 21212 Phone: 410.435.3755 Fax: 410.435.0547
> www.singular-pathways.com "from fears and tears to confidence and joy"
>
>
> Grouptalk mailing list
> List at grouptalkweb.org
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>
>

-- 
"The perfect man breathes as if he is not breathing" - Lao-Tzu (circa 4th
century BC)
Breathing is the foundation of life, and good breathing is the foundation of
good health. Improve your health by improving your breathing with the BIBH
Buteyko Method.
Call or write me for details or appointments.
Barnett J. Weiss, MA, LCSW , (Bud)
E-mail: ButeykoNYC at gmail.com
Voice mail and Fax: (800) 530-9133
Web site : www.ButeykoNYC.com
Certified Nurtured Heart Advanced Trainer
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 00:00:30 -0600
From: "Adam Blatner" <ablatner at verizon.net>
To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Subject: 2 feet of snow in New York!
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I heard about the snowstorm in New York!

SCROLL DOWN

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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:34:29 +1300
From: Jenny Wilson <jenny at blennerhassett.gen.nz>
To: Bud Weiss <bud.weiss at gmail.com>
Cc: grouptalk <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Subject: Re: ADHD question
Message-ID: <4B8CB175.8000505 at blennerhassett.gen.nz>
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Hi
A colleague of mine has recently completed a research trial looking at
micronutrients and ADHD. Has attracted a lot of attention. More
information and contact details can be found on the link below.

http://hypography.com/forums/science-news/22408-daily-micronutrient-dose-may-combat-mental.html

Jenny

Bud Weiss wrote:
> You might want to check out the Nurtured Heart Approach and the books
> that are listed on the site www.difficultchild.com
> <http://www.difficultchild.com/> Read the research page there and you
> will see massive reductions in problem behaviors as well as all but one
> student off of all drugs in one fairly large title one school within
> less than two years after the school wide implementation of the Nurtured
> Heart Approach. One of the books by Howard Glasser, the creator of
> Nurtured heart is called "101 reasons to avoid Ritalin like the Plague."
>  Sandy Newmark, MD, the pediatrician who worked closely with Andrew Weil
> among others agrees with much of that
> book. http://www.doctornewmark.com/adhd.html
> 
> Newmark has many recommendations. Unfortunately, despite lectures I have
> heard by him, he still holds out for Ritalin in some so called
> extraordinary cases supported by an integrative approach.  He has not
> looked seriously at breathing issues that I work with in having helped a
> number of students from ages 8 up. Nor does he really look sufficiently
> into thyroid issues which I am certain many of these children have.
> Counter intuitively, I believe they are hypo not hyper thyroid and they
> are running on empty with adrenals teetering on the verge of exhaustion.
> Environmental physicians like Doris Rapp, MD, in her books describes so
> many chemical factors that contribute to serious hyperactivity and how
> to avoid then as well as developing antidotes for them. 
> 
> Serious developments with nearly all of these can be avoided if the
> children, most of whom are serious mouth breathers and often have
> malacluded teeth as well due to mouth breathing--which you can learn
> about that
> at http://orthodonticearlytreatment.com/index.php?home --- can be helped
> to retrain their breathing, keeping their mouths shut doing simple
> supervised appropriately increasing step exercises and proper reduced
> breathing for several weeks and so many of them calm down from little
> more than that and of course some modest and not radical restrictive
> improvements in their diet. Newmark claims that if you go on a very
> clean totally organic diet for 3 weeks, you will clear more than 95% of
> all the toxic chemicals you have stored in your body.  The children who
> have asthma are on medications that produce hyperactivity. They are
> basically adrenalin type drugs. And then there are the steroids which
> must be given regularly to protect the children from the dangers of the
> adrenolin type meds like Albuterol or worse far worse killers like the
> long acting Beta Agonists in Advair or Symbicort. 
> 
> In Scotland, whole schools were addressed with the Buteyko Approach and
> the changes were enormous in terms of the reduction of attentional
> deficits let alone asthma. see Glasgow school children video
> here: http://www.sleepingallnight.com/conference-videos.html#movie_start
> 
> <http://www.sleepingallnight.com/conference-videos.html#movie_start>Best
> of luck with all. Be well, Bud Weiss
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:16 PM, PATRICIA DESERT <honeybwomn at msn.com
> <mailto:honeybwomn at msn.com>> wrote:
> 
>    Would the person who sent the information on the diet that supports
>    elimination of ADHD symptoms in children please send it again.  I
>    inadvertently deleted it.  Thanks.  Patti
> 
>    Patti Desert, LCSW-C, CEMDR, CP Singular Pathways 208 East Melrose
>    Avenue Baltimore, MD 21212 Phone: 410.435.3755 Fax: 410.435.0547
>    www.singular-pathways.com <http://www.singular-pathways.com> "from
>    fears and tears to confidence and joy"
> 
> 
>    Grouptalk mailing list
>    List at grouptalkweb.org <mailto:List at grouptalkweb.org>
>    http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> "The perfect man breathes as if he is not breathing" - Lao-Tzu (circa
> 4th century BC)
> Breathing is the foundation of life, and good breathing is the
> foundation of good health. Improve your health by improving your
> breathing with the BIBH Buteyko Method.
> Call or write me for details or appointments.
> Barnett J. Weiss, MA, LCSW , (Bud)
> E-mail: ButeykoNYC at gmail.com <mailto:ButeykoNYC at gmail.com>
> Voice mail and Fax: (800) 530-9133
> Web site : www.ButeykoNYC.com <http://www.ButeykoNYC.com>
> Certified Nurtured Heart Advanced Trainer
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:36:14 +1300
From: Jenny Wilson <jenny at blennerhassett.gen.nz>
To: Bud Weiss <bud.weiss at gmail.com>
Cc: grouptalk <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Subject: Re: ADHD question
Message-ID: <4B8CB1DE.6000209 at blennerhassett.gen.nz>
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Bud Weiss wrote:
> You might want to check out the Nurtured Heart Approach and the books
> that are listed on the site www.difficultchild.com
> <http://www.difficultchild.com/> Read the research page there and you
> will see massive reductions in problem behaviors as well as all but one
> student off of all drugs in one fairly large title one school within
> less than two years after the school wide implementation of the Nurtured
> Heart Approach. One of the books by Howard Glasser, the creator of
> Nurtured heart is called "101 reasons to avoid Ritalin like the Plague."
>  Sandy Newmark, MD, the pediatrician who worked closely with Andrew Weil
> among others agrees with much of that
> book. http://www.doctornewmark.com/adhd.html
> 
> Newmark has many recommendations. Unfortunately, despite lectures I have
> heard by him, he still holds out for Ritalin in some so called
> extraordinary cases supported by an integrative approach.  He has not
> looked seriously at breathing issues that I work with in having helped a
> number of students from ages 8 up. Nor does he really look sufficiently
> into thyroid issues which I am certain many of these children have.
> Counter intuitively, I believe they are hypo not hyper thyroid and they
> are running on empty with adrenals teetering on the verge of exhaustion.
> Environmental physicians like Doris Rapp, MD, in her books describes so
> many chemical factors that contribute to serious hyperactivity and how
> to avoid then as well as developing antidotes for them. 
> 
> Serious developments with nearly all of these can be avoided if the
> children, most of whom are serious mouth breathers and often have
> malacluded teeth as well due to mouth breathing--which you can learn
> about that
> at http://orthodonticearlytreatment.com/index.php?home --- can be helped
> to retrain their breathing, keeping their mouths shut doing simple
> supervised appropriately increasing step exercises and proper reduced
> breathing for several weeks and so many of them calm down from little
> more than that and of course some modest and not radical restrictive
> improvements in their diet. Newmark claims that if you go on a very
> clean totally organic diet for 3 weeks, you will clear more than 95% of
> all the toxic chemicals you have stored in your body.  The children who
> have asthma are on medications that produce hyperactivity. They are
> basically adrenalin type drugs. And then there are the steroids which
> must be given regularly to protect the children from the dangers of the
> adrenolin type meds like Albuterol or worse far worse killers like the
> long acting Beta Agonists in Advair or Symbicort. 
> 
> In Scotland, whole schools were addressed with the Buteyko Approach and
> the changes were enormous in terms of the reduction of attentional
> deficits let alone asthma. see Glasgow school children video
> here: http://www.sleepingallnight.com/conference-videos.html#movie_start
> 
> <http://www.sleepingallnight.com/conference-videos.html#movie_start>Best
> of luck with all. Be well, Bud Weiss
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:16 PM, PATRICIA DESERT <honeybwomn at msn.com
> <mailto:honeybwomn at msn.com>> wrote:
> 
>    Would the person who sent the information on the diet that supports
>    elimination of ADHD symptoms in children please send it again.  I
>    inadvertently deleted it.  Thanks.  Patti
> 
>    Patti Desert, LCSW-C, CEMDR, CP Singular Pathways 208 East Melrose
>    Avenue Baltimore, MD 21212 Phone: 410.435.3755 Fax: 410.435.0547
>    www.singular-pathways.com <http://www.singular-pathways.com> "from
>    fears and tears to confidence and joy"
> 
> 
>    Grouptalk mailing list
>    List at grouptalkweb.org <mailto:List at grouptalkweb.org>
>    http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> "The perfect man breathes as if he is not breathing" - Lao-Tzu (circa
> 4th century BC)
> Breathing is the foundation of life, and good breathing is the
> foundation of good health. Improve your health by improving your
> breathing with the BIBH Buteyko Method.
> Call or write me for details or appointments.
> Barnett J. Weiss, MA, LCSW , (Bud)
> E-mail: ButeykoNYC at gmail.com <mailto:ButeykoNYC at gmail.com>
> Voice mail and Fax: (800) 530-9133
> Web site : www.ButeykoNYC.com <http://www.ButeykoNYC.com>
> Certified Nurtured Heart Advanced Trainer
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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> List at grouptalkweb.org
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 03:14:51 -0500
From: Bud Weiss <bud.weiss at gmail.com>
To: Jenny Wilson <jenny at blennerhassett.gen.nz>
Cc: grouptalk <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Subject: Re: ADHD question
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THere are several pre existing well studied groups that have been doing this
for a long time, the main one is the orthomolecular group begun by Hoffer
and Osmond in Saskatchewan Canada in the 60s.  I actually was asked in the
early 70s by the American Schizophrenia foundation to run some half way
houses for many seriously mentally ill people who had been institutionalized
and upon being on the Orthomolecular regimen, they recovered and were so
dependent on their institutional roles that they simply had a great deal of
difficulty adjusting outside.

Recently, a group calling themselves true hope www.truehope,com  began some
research about 10 years ago which actually started when a farmer noted that
pigs aggressive pen behavior could be calmed if he increased mineral count
in their feed. He went on from there to treat his family and formed a team
which has now a few published studies in journals and continues to expand.
The product is called EMPowerPlus. Also using fish oils and a number of
other supplenments.
I have stated over and over the incredible recovery of so many children  on
the serious end of the Autism Spectrum through detoxing and cleaning up
their guts with various supplements and probiotics then putting back the
minerals and vitamins and amino acids they have not been able to digest. It,
s all out there. Just that the pharmaceuticals have a death hold on
everyone. Over and over, I have also stressed the enormous healing that
takes place through proper breathing and even meditation as demonstrated on
YOutube and in videos like Doing TIme, Doing Vipassana. Richard Brown, MD of
E-Sam fame recently came out with an article in a trade paper about his use
of reduced breathing helping seriously depressed clients.
Be well, Blessings, Bud
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:34 AM, Jenny Wilson <jenny at blennerhassett.gen.nz>wrote:

> Hi
> A colleague of mine has recently completed a research trial looking at
> micronutrients and ADHD. Has attracted a lot of attention. More
> information and contact details can be found on the link below.
>
>
> http://hypography.com/forums/science-news/22408-daily-micronutrient-dose-may-combat-mental.html
>
> Jenny
>
>
>
>
> Bud Weiss wrote:
> > You might want to check out the Nurtured Heart Approach and the books
> > that are listed on the site www.difficultchild.com
> > <http://www.difficultchild.com/> Read the research page there and you
> > will see massive reductions in problem behaviors as well as all but one
> > student off of all drugs in one fairly large title one school within
> > less than two years after the school wide implementation of the Nurtured
> > Heart Approach. One of the books by Howard Glasser, the creator of
> > Nurtured heart is called "101 reasons to avoid Ritalin like the Plague."
> >  Sandy Newmark, MD, the pediatrician who worked closely with Andrew Weil
> > among others agrees with much of that
> > book. http://www.doctornewmark.com/adhd.html
> >
> > Newmark has many recommendations. Unfortunately, despite lectures I have
> > heard by him, he still holds out for Ritalin in some so called
> > extraordinary cases supported by an integrative approach.  He has not
> > looked seriously at breathing issues that I work with in having helped a
> > number of students from ages 8 up. Nor does he really look sufficiently
> > into thyroid issues which I am certain many of these children have.
> > Counter intuitively, I believe they are hypo not hyper thyroid and they
> > are running on empty with adrenals teetering on the verge of exhaustion.
> > Environmental physicians like Doris Rapp, MD, in her books describes so
> > many chemical factors that contribute to serious hyperactivity and how
> > to avoid then as well as developing antidotes for them.
> >
> > Serious developments with nearly all of these can be avoided if the
> > children, most of whom are serious mouth breathers and often have
> > malacluded teeth as well due to mouth breathing--which you can learn
> > about that
> > at http://orthodonticearlytreatment.com/index.php?home --- can be helped
> > to retrain their breathing, keeping their mouths shut doing simple
> > supervised appropriately increasing step exercises and proper reduced
> > breathing for several weeks and so many of them calm down from little
> > more than that and of course some modest and not radical restrictive
> > improvements in their diet. Newmark claims that if you go on a very
> > clean totally organic diet for 3 weeks, you will clear more than 95% of
> > all the toxic chemicals you have stored in your body.  The children who
> > have asthma are on medications that produce hyperactivity. They are
> > basically adrenalin type drugs. And then there are the steroids which
> > must be given regularly to protect the children from the dangers of the
> > adrenolin type meds like Albuterol or worse far worse killers like the
> > long acting Beta Agonists in Advair or Symbicort.
> >
> > In Scotland, whole schools were addressed with the Buteyko Approach and
> > the changes were enormous in terms of the reduction of attentional
> > deficits let alone asthma. see Glasgow school children video
> > here: http://www.sleepingallnight.com/conference-videos.html#movie_start
> >
> > <http://www.sleepingallnight.com/conference-videos.html#movie_start>Best
> > of luck with all. Be well, Bud Weiss
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:16 PM, PATRICIA DESERT <honeybwomn at msn.com
> > <mailto:honeybwomn at msn.com>> wrote:
> >
> >    Would the person who sent the information on the diet that supports
> >    elimination of ADHD symptoms in children please send it again.  I
> >    inadvertently deleted it.  Thanks.  Patti
> >
> >    Patti Desert, LCSW-C, CEMDR, CP Singular Pathways 208 East Melrose
> >    Avenue Baltimore, MD 21212 Phone: 410.435.3755 Fax: 410.435.0547
> >    www.singular-pathways.com <http://www.singular-pathways.com> "from
> >    fears and tears to confidence and joy"
> >
> >
> >    Grouptalk mailing list
> >    List at grouptalkweb.org <mailto:List at grouptalkweb.org>
> >    http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "The perfect man breathes as if he is not breathing" - Lao-Tzu (circa
> > 4th century BC)
> > Breathing is the foundation of life, and good breathing is the
> > foundation of good health. Improve your health by improving your
> > breathing with the BIBH Buteyko Method.
> > Call or write me for details or appointments.
> > Barnett J. Weiss, MA, LCSW , (Bud)
> > E-mail: ButeykoNYC at gmail.com <mailto:ButeykoNYC at gmail.com>
> > Voice mail and Fax: (800) 530-9133
> > Web site : www.ButeykoNYC.com <http://www.ButeykoNYC.com>
> > Certified Nurtured Heart Advanced Trainer
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Grouptalk mailing list
> > List at grouptalkweb.org
> > http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>

-- 
"The perfect man breathes as if he is not breathing" - Lao-Tzu (circa 4th
century BC)
Breathing is the foundation of life, and good breathing is the foundation of
good health. Improve your health by improving your breathing with the BIBH
Buteyko Method.
Call or write me for details or appointments.
Barnett J. Weiss, MA, LCSW , (Bud)
E-mail: ButeykoNYC at gmail.com
Voice mail and Fax: (800) 530-9133
Web site : www.ButeykoNYC.com
Certified Nurtured Heart Advanced Trainer
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:10:09 -0600
From: "Adam Blatner" <ablatner at verizon.net>
To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Subject: alternative medicine
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Dear All, 
    I want to remind folks about the presence of at least a thousand claims by alternative healing proponents about different nutrients and other programs. It is convenient to assume the paranoid stance that big drug companies are suppressing the truth, but we should note that long before big pharma this cultural trend has been prevalent. Even granted that 50 of the 1000 might be absolutely true and would represent fundamental revolutions in not just treatment, but also in the understanding of disease, we would still have the problem of assessing which 50 out of the thousand those valid approaches were.
      This requires the hard work of science, of asking, "but is it so?" and being aware of the many rhetorical devices, logical pitfalls, and other errors that ordinary scientists have to wrestle with. 
      Could it be that many claims have been tested and re-tested and not found valid, such as the aforementioned "ortho-molecular" psychiatry approach?
      It is also true that even after repeated tests and evaluations by panels truly trying to be impartial, such as those evaluating the idea that autism is caused by immunization, and finding no connection, that a significant portion of parents---perhaps a fourth---continue to believe it does. Ditto a certain percentage of people who continue to believe that President Obama is not really an Americn by birth. 
    So the recent exchange about alternative healing approaches and diet, while peripheral to our common interest, nevertheless is useful in reminding us that many psychotherapists view psychodrama as a similarly unproven methodology and that the research basis for our work could use further support. All fields have occasions to be reminded to resist the lure of short-cuts and the challenge of critical thinking. 
    Warmly, Adam
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:48:04 -0600
From: "Adam Blatner" <ablatner at verizon.net>
To: <DRAMATHERAPYLST at LISTSERV.KSU.EDU>
Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org
Subject: boundaries
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Dear All, Although I can't afford to attend the conference, I'll be interested in seeing the program and how the field is re-defining itself. The hinge is the identity of the "therapist," and whether working in contexts with no specifically "therapeutic" contract, no social "sick role" context, will shift the identity of the field.
    I'm not against such a shift, and I think psychodrama needs to face a similar question, because Moreno's vision early on and even during his mainstream career always transcended therapy. He used the term, "sociatry,"--- to heal the social matrix. (It was slightly misleading because the suffix, "-iatry" refers to the medical profession, which is on the whole not the most avant-garde movement in our culture nowadays. Back in the 1930s and 40s, though, it was more radical, and depth psychology didn't hesitate to take on cultural norms---e.g., the writings of Erich Fromm.)
      The prefix, socio- is also a little outdated, because so many issues are becoming recognized as more than merely social (as the term is generally used)--- but rather social in its broadest sense as collective, thus addressing also political, economic, ecological, spiritual, religious, legal, educational, aesthetic fashions, etc. 

      Anyway, I am for the recognition of drama as a tool in the wider culture, as I noted in my 2007 anthology, Interactive & Improvisational Drama ( www.interactiveimprov.com  -- have your local library order a copy!) 

    There are books coming out on sociodrama and related methods such as Theatre of the Oppressed, applications in schools for social and emotional learning, and many other approaches. I've made a similar appeal to the psychodrama community to broaden their identity beyond the mid-late 20th century fashion of "therapy" (e.g., http://www.blatner.com/adam/pdntbk/revisioningpd408.html )...

    So I'm pleased to see this advance. Also it speaks to two papers I've recently posted on my website: 
  1  "SHRINK" OR "EXPANDER": RE-EVALUATING THE PSYCHOTHERAPIST'S ROLE http://www.blatner.com/adam/psyntbk/shrinkexpander.html
    2. "Beyond Psychotherapy"  http://www.blatner.com/adam/psyntbk/beyondpsychotherapy.html  

  Good wishes on this theme!  

Warmly, Adam
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The NADT 31st Annual Conference-November 4-7, 2010

Chicago, IL

Pushing the Boundaries: 

Contemplating the Liminal Space in Drama Therapy  

Victor Turner defines the liminal space as a "place where boundaries dissolve a little and we stand there, on the threshold, getting ourselves ready to move across the limits of what we were into what we are to be."

At this year's conference we invite you to explore the ways that we as a field of drama therapy are continuing to push the boundaries in our work.  How are we dissolving the boundaries between our field and other creative arts therapies, other disciplines, other technologies, and other world views? How are the current political and cultural climates transforming our field and work? In what ways does a seeming dissolution of boundaries shed light on new perspectives and understanding? How can we (or should we) measure, research or try to capture such flux and ambiguity? Are there some boundaries that should remain?  And why is the liminal space so powerful?

The possibilities are endless, the boundaries waiting to be expanded are limitless..and we look forward to seeing you there in our mutual exploration.

The new deadline for all submissions is March 15th, 2010.  

For further information on the conference and proposal submissions, please visit http://www.nadt.org

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