Reality? What a concept!

[Bud Weiss]

Here I go again.  THe client's reality? Appreciating it if they think they
are horrible and should die as they are garbage and a total drain on
everyone.  Bringing forth what they consider as their reality and driving it
to it's conclusion following them and achieving a greater perspective which
includes much more than their present view of reality YES. Appreciating how
even wanting to kill yourself is a caring aspect in wanting to relieve pain
when no alternative appears available, Yes; appreciating that all behavior
has value as all behavior is goal oriented and often we cannot see the goal
as therapists and only have our judgements about that goal.
As a therapist guide, mentor, director, it often takes real courage and
belief in your abilities as well as trusting the method if you have been
well trained to take someone in the dark night of the soul on through. Here
also is where I really believe that the inclusion of ritual is essential as
well as engaging somehow the surrounding family, community and some figure
or source such as "God", the ANCESTORS, the universe etc. is essential.
Giving us all a place in the universe. It is not a coincident that the
person showed up here as did I and the others attending. That is very very
big.


Also wishing you a great conference and in hopes that we all find our dance,
I remain Bud in NYC Brooklyn.

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:51 PM, thana ag <anathga at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  AB: If I understand this, we start with trying to bring forth the client's
> reality, helping the client to appreciate it more fully, deeply, and work
> from there. Yes?
>  AG; YES!
> AG; Wishing you an enjoyable Conference. These wishes were directed to
> Peter.
> I will be in Phila and am looking forward to seein g you there,
> anath.
> ------------------------------
> From: ablatner at verizon.net
> To: anathga at hotmail.com
> CC: list at grouptalkweb.org
> Subject: Reality? What a concept!
> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:37:04 -0600
>
>
> Responding to Anath's comment (see below in darker typeface), I'm reminded
> of the line "Reality? What a concept!" It was said with a snort of
> derisive laughter by Mork (a fictional character, an extra-terrestrial from
> the planet Mongo I think it was), played by Robin Williams in the 1970s in a
> television series, Mork and Mindy. More recent takes on this theme include
> the series Third Rock from the Sun.  I like that line, it fits my postmodern
> sensibility and my leaps into playfulness.
>
>
>     Thus, Anath's line (or was it Peter's) that Most ideas are an
> approximation of reality anyway... AB: So a postmodernist might say that
> there is no reality, the phrase "there is" implying an externally existent
> dynamic, apart from the interpreting mind, an objective truth for all time
> and space and all people---or beyond people. I might concede that there are
> many realities such as the existence of this chair or 2 + 2 = 4, but these
> are trivial. Non-trivial realities operate very much within a matrix of
> meanings, semantics, linguistics, etc.
>
>    Also, there are all sorts of variations of ideas that aren't even
> approximations---such as ideas that have to do with clearly fictional if not
> nonsensical creations, and the fun in that endeavor...
>
>     Anyway, Anath said, "Just to make it more clear: all ideas are
> hypothetical statements about reality."
>  AB: Two associations: 64% of people presenting their ideas don't recognize
> that they are hypothetical, provisional, and rather confuse ideas and
> beliefs and ultimate truths. This is a mixture of egocentricity and a lack
> of critical thinking in the curriculum.
>           Of course, what Anath is getting at is a more humble awareness of
> the fragility of most ideas, and I agree that we should be inclined to take
> ideas in this more critical sense.
>
>    Anath: Therefore whatever methods we use to understand the reality a
> person/s operates in present (verb, to present) a possibility of help when
> requested.   AB: If I understand this, we start with trying to bring forth
> the client's reality, helping the client to appreciate it more fully,
> deeply, and work from there. Yes?
>
> AG Wishing you an enjoyable Conference. Best, anath    AB: What, won't you
> be there?
>
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