gender relations thoughts

[Edward Schreiber]

There are many gender-ways of being, as many as there are people to  
give expression.  Trans Multi Changing not fitting into man or woman.  
Take a trip to Short Mtn Sanctuary in Tn during a gathering; you will  
find a rainbow of expression and not stuck in the conserve catagories  
of patriarchy

E.Schreiber
Director
ZTM Foundation


On Sep 21, 2009, at 6:08 PM, "Adam Blatner" <ablatner at verizon.net>  
wrote:

> Hello, colleagues, I've been wondering about something: I have the  
> impression that there are at least three or four categories and they  
> are significant:
>
> -- men who enjoy women as much as or even more than men, or who  
> enjoy men who are similarly more androgynous...  or who share  
> interests that aren't tied to gender...
>              (This may not correlate at all with their role behavior  
> in their sex lives---they can be very male in relation to the female)
>
> -- and then there are guys who like to hang  out with other guys and  
> do guy stuff  
>
> -- And gals who similarly relate to gal stuff (activities that most  
> men don't like)
>
> -- and also women who like to hang out more with men in the  
> androgynous realm
>
>            and perhaps even some men who like to do mainly gal stuff  
> or gals who like to do mainly man stuff who are not actually  
> transgendered or homosexual... but I don't know many / any like this..
>
>    We also have to make exceptions for single-interest cross-gender- 
> stereotype activities. There are women who like football, fantasy  
> football, want to play sports previously thought to be only male,  
> and in many other ways crossing past gender barriers
>          and men, too, becoming nurses, etc.
>
>     I'm more the first group, more androgynous, and most sports,  
> fishing, hanging out, drinking, and other male activities as modeled  
> in the literature don't appeal to me. Activities that do appeal to  
> me could be attractive to a small percentage of either sex, such as  
> continuing education classes in various liberal arts fields. ...
>
>          I wonder what the percentages are, the breakdown...
>
>     And I wonder what it's like if people in one category are raised  
> in families who are mainly in another category and that family or  
> professional sub-group or other group has collective attitudes about  
> those who may not fit with their stereotypes?
>
>     e.g., a boy in a fairly intellectual family who really liked  
> sports and sought out other dads to coach and mentor him...
>
>          I wonder if this has been addressed sociologically,  
> sociodramatically, etc.?
>
>      Warmly, Adam blatner    open to thoughts
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