Good psych Hospital NY area anyone

[HV Psychodrama]

Four Winds only accepts Medicaid for under 21 and over 65. The adult program is almost totally DBT based these days, and very short term. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Edward Schreiber 
  To: Bud Weiss 
  Cc: ASGPP grouptalknew 
  Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:20 PM
  Subject: Re: Good psych Hospital NY area anyone


  What about 4-Winds Hospital?
  Judy Swallow and Rebecca Walters have a long association with 4-Winds and I know they are outstanding in their work there.
  Ed

  On Oct 23, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Bud Weiss wrote:


    Dear People:
    I desperately need a good psych hospital for my son. He has been in and out 11 times over the past 8 years bipolar 1 and everywhere it is the same, mickey mouse group sessions, psychiatrists and psychologists who really don't know how to join really seriously mentally ill people and try to power or snow patients into complying with their meds and a plan. IT DOESN"T WORK BUT THAT DOESN"T STOP THEM... Xavier Amador's work does but so few in the system are trained in it see www.xavieramador.com or www.leapinstitute.org
    Please let me know if you know any place that is good and has decent treatment and follow up afterwards anywhere around New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Pennsylvania. I would take him there if I have to. He is on the verge of coming apart again just having been literally discharged from one of the worst facilities, St. Vincent's hospital in New York City REISS 3 unit under the direction of Oscar Ramos, M.D. whose license to practice I am going to go after. It is the hospital nearest us and Sam actually directed the ambulance and police to take him there after I called the police to hospitalize him as he was fully manic and a real danger to himself though not to others.   Ramos told my son that if he continued to act up, he would put him out on the street. That is what he did 3 years ago resulting in my son being back in Bellevue for 3 months. Sam said to that, "Well, that's easy, I'll just act out cause I want to get out of this hell hole.   After my pleading with Ramos, he reversed it to saying that if Sam was a good boy, after 5 days fully manic with psychotic features telling them that he would refuse to continue to take meds when he is out, Ramos said that he would then discharge Sam which is what Sam wanted. THis was done and now, Sam is a mess changing his mind about things from moment to moment, mood changing etc. We are about to tell him that he cannot live in his mother's apartment as he has been doing all his life, if he does not take his meds, He will have to go to a shelter. Sam is a kind loving incredibly talented Pianist, keyboard artist and composer who under the name Shnabubula ) google search comes up with over 85,000 pages about him and his breakthrough piece on the "Kind of Bloop" album got him an interview by Time Magazine on the Internet in which he was misquoted which drove Sam over the top as he became more and more disturbed about all of it contacting people everywhere to try to let them know that he had been misquoted. He stopped sleeping, took no meds, ate tons of sugar and split apart becoming more and more agitated and going out in the middle of the night insulting people on the street challenging them to be fixed by him or get the F... away. He has never attacked anyone physically in his life, and he has been totally provocative during these manic episodes.\
    Any thoughts and suggestions re good treatment hospitals would be appreciated. I don't have enough money for Sam to be in a place like Windhorse which we looked at some time ago. It has to be a hospital that accepts medicare and medicaid.
    thanks, Bud

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