letter to Bessel

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Mon Nov 30 22:32:07 CST 2009


I agree with Ed and Anath that if someone from the ASGPP or any Psychodrama community should be able to present to Bessel van der Kolk should present a classical psychodrama. Not to say that you Kate can't follow through with your suggestion. Just that if you do so you are representing the TSM. 
I think Bessel's comment is neutral response not wishing to engage or debate us. As Adam stated early in this dialogue there are people doing things that are to say the least uncomfortable for us as psychodramatist. Could only imagine someone not familiar with our technique would come away with. So Bessel is entitled to his opinion and especially his experience. I am comfortable with his response in his letter to Kate. He does not seemed invested in undermining our methodology or Society.

Thanks Kate for engaging him to a neutral conclusion.

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----- Original Message -----

From: thana ag 

To: Edward Schreiber , kate china , list at grouptalkweb.org

Sent: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:08:54 +0000 (UTC)

Subject: RE: letter to Bessel














I second your concern,


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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:22:13 -0500
From: edwschreiber at earthlink.net
To: drkatetsi at mac.com; list at grouptalkweb.org
Subject: Re: letter to Bessel







Hi Kate,


Thanks for helping!  One concern for me is that TSM is TSM and I would think it's wise for Dr. Van der Kolk to know more about the classical method - not only TSM.   Ed














-----Original Message----- 
From: Dr Kate Hudgins 
Sent: Nov 30, 2009 10:51 AM 
To: grouptalk Listserv 
Subject: letter to Bessel 

Dear Group Talk 






















I replied to Bessel's letter to me today.  I used it as an opportunity to ask him if there would be an opportunity for him to actually see TSM for study, as an example of the safety features that most psychodramatists consider when working with trauma survivors currently, 13 years after he last saw psychodrama in 1996.?  I suggested a senior student or someone like that....that I could bring up a senior team to his clinic to demonstrate how we work with containment and safety to prevent unchosen abreaction and uncontrolled regression and how we integrate clinical psychology and his teachings on how NOT to overwhelm the brain with intense emotions, etc.  We shall see what he says, ey?






















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