email from Bessel

HV Psychodrama hvpi at hvc.rr.com
Fri Nov 13 11:04:29 CST 2009


Your approach makes a lot of sense, Ed.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: edwschreiber at earthlink.net 
  To: Dr Kate Hudgins ; grouptalk Listserv 
  Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:49 AM
  Subject: Re: email from Bessel


  I would, if it were me, ask/approach him for feedback - asking him as a expert in the field of trauma research and treatment, what might we consider as psychodamatists - in our work - to be of the most help uisng our method.  That's my suggestiion. I would approach him with a sense of humility about his work and ask him his thoughts, no need to defend anything.



    -----Original Message----- 
    From: Dr Kate Hudgins 
    Sent: Nov 13, 2009 11:43 AM 
    To: grouptalk Listserv 
    Subject: email from Bessel 

    Dear Grouptalk 


    Interestingly I just received an email from Bessel this AM.  He was asking me to tone down my use of his name and praise of experiential methods on my website as "the only" treatment for trauma, saying that he supports EMDR which is not an experiential therapy.  I actually DO see it within my definition of experiential therapy...as it focuses on balances the right and left sides of the brain. 


    So...this gives me an opportunity to open a discussion with him about his comment at the workshop...but I need a few more details to do so..so ed....remind me what conference it was,  etc......and then I think I can ask him if he could at least be neutral about PDA or say since he supports my work, as he says in the email he just sent me...could he say something like..."some forms of psychodrama are helpful"....or at least open a dialogue with him.  


    also, I realized that my new book that is coming out early 2010 "Stories from the Frontlines:  Clinical and Community Action Around the World Using the Therapuetic Spiral Model" in some small way begins to do what Cathy N. suggests about gathering a general consensus on what is needed about psychodrama to treat trauma.  what this book does is draw from 14 authors what they all have taken from TSM and kept...what their consensus is from just this one trauma model is.  They are actually all quite clear in what they have all kept.  The Prescriptive roles.  The role of the Obesering ego.....the ability to first develop a role that allows trauma survivors to observe themselves and their symptoms WITHOUT judgement...a neutral observer without shame or blame.  then their need for containment, in tSM the roles of the Body Double, the Containing double and the Manager of Defenses.  Then to build us restoration roles of intrapsychic, interpersonal and transpersonal strengths before EVER addressing the trauma.  


    This is actually nothing new in trauma therapy.  It was fairly new to psychodrama when I first wrote and taught about it 15 years ago.  Now most people do similar things under different names.  but in the trauma field most writers/clinicians know to stage therapy with the first stage being stabalization or strength building before directly addressing the trauma as I said in a previous email.  


    so....Ed...and others  give me a quick email response to I can write back to Bessel's email in a timely fashion and tell him we have been having a listserve discussion about his comment and how can we help himm see psychodrama at least in a more neutral fasion?


    thanks, Kate


    Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP


    Clinical Psychologist
    Director of Training
    Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
    ww.therapeuticspiral.org
    drkatetsi at mac.com








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