email from Bessel

Dr Kate Hudgins drkatetsi at mac.com
Fri Nov 13 10:43:50 CST 2009


Dear Grouptalk

Interestingly I just received an email from Bessel this AM.  He was  
asking me to tone down my use of his name and praise of experiential  
methods on my website as "the only" treatment for trauma, saying that  
he supports EMDR which is not an experiential therapy.  I actually DO  
see it within my definition of experiential therapy...as it focuses  
on balances the right and left sides of the brain.

So...this gives me an opportunity to open a discussion with him about  
his comment at the workshop...but I need a few more details to do  
so..so ed....remind me what conference it was,  etc......and then I  
think I can ask him if he could at least be neutral about PDA or say  
since he supports my work, as he says in the email he just sent  
me...could he say something like..."some forms of psychodrama are  
helpful"....or at least open a dialogue with him.

also, I realized that my new book that is coming out early 2010  
"Stories from the Frontlines:  Clinical and Community Action Around  
the World Using the Therapuetic Spiral Model" in some small way  
begins to do what Cathy N. suggests about gathering a general  
consensus on what is needed about psychodrama to treat trauma.  what  
this book does is draw from 14 authors what they all have taken from  
TSM and kept...what their consensus is from just this one trauma  
model is.  They are actually all quite clear in what they have all  
kept.  The Prescriptive roles.  The role of the Obesering ego.....the  
ability to first develop a role that allows trauma survivors to  
observe themselves and their symptoms WITHOUT judgement...a neutral  
observer without shame or blame.  then their need for containment, in  
tSM the roles of the Body Double, the Containing double and the  
Manager of Defenses.  Then to build us restoration roles of  
intrapsychic, interpersonal and transpersonal strengths before EVER  
addressing the trauma.

This is actually nothing new in trauma therapy.  It was fairly new to  
psychodrama when I first wrote and taught about it 15 years ago.  Now  
most people do similar things under different names.  but in the  
trauma field most writers/clinicians know to stage therapy with the  
first stage being stabalization or strength building before directly  
addressing the trauma as I said in a previous email.

so....Ed...and others  give me a quick email response to I can write  
back to Bessel's email in a timely fashion and tell him we have been  
having a listserve discussion about his comment and how can we help  
himm see psychodrama at least in a more neutral fasion?

thanks, Kate

Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP

Clinical Psychologist
Director of Training
Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
ww.therapeuticspiral.org
drkatetsi at mac.com



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