early journals

[thana ag]

Thanks for sharing!
anath

From: hvpi at hvc.rr.com
To: edwschreiber at earthlink.net
CC: anathga at hotmail.com; adam at blatner.com; amb1111 at mac.com; list at grouptalkweb.org; ejs at morenoinstituteeast.org; amb at morenoinstituteeast.org
Subject: Re: early journals
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:47:21 -0400










Something Judy and I did something that one 
year that worked out great for everyone..we had a woman in our therapy group who 
got divorced in the middle of the year. All of a sudden she  had no money 
to pay for what was her biggest support during a difficult time. (She was only 
working two days a week.) We encouraged her to do some volunteer work in 
exchange for her time in the group...she volunteered at a battered woman's 
shelter and feeling so useful was surely as healing for her as being in the 
group at that time of her life. 

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  From: 
  Edward Schreiber 
  To: HV Psychodrama 
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  Subject: Re: early journals
  
Not actually against the ethics but highly discouraged.
  In my view, bartering is not an activity I want to engage in.
  Ed
  

  
  On Mar 22, 2009, at 10:32 PM, HV Psychodrama wrote:
  
    Bartering for training is one thing, but if I 
    remember correctly, bartering for psychotherapeutic services is against the 
    APA ethics.
    
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      From: thana ag
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      Cc: ejs at morenoinstituteeast.org ; amb at morenoinstituteeast.org
      Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:23 
      PM
      Subject: RE: early journals
      
Hi Adam,
Hmm..I was thinking along these line for the 
      past few years,and recently  with regard to pts who at this point owe 
      me  fees b/c  of  current fiscal difficulties.. so your 
      your idea of bartering made me think about it harder.......thanks as 
      usual.
anath.

> From: ablatner at verizon.net
> 
      To: amb1111 at mac.com; list at grouptalkweb.org
> 
      Subject: early journals
> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:59:36 
      -0500
> CC: amb at MorenoInstituteEast.org; ejs at MorenoInstituteEast.org; ROROBEAR at aol.com
> 
> So Here's my plan. My 
      mission is to promote the dissemination of information in the 
> field---aka 
      "scholarship"-- which in turn has a number of sub-tasks:
> 1. 
      Encouraging writing up papers. Many people are giving workshops. Many 
      students 
> are taking 
      notes.
> 
> In 
      our era of financial "tight-ness," I wonder if there are not students who 
      might barter 
> for 
      training. I wonder about
> a. amanuensis services: For notes to be 
      written up well enough to be published on a 
> website, x hours of 
      training.
> That way the director doesn't have to write it up. We 
      have many excellent 
> 
      trainers and practitioners who are leading workshops that have significant 
      anecdotes, 
> 
      technique modifications, theoretical rationales, and elucidation of 
      underlying issues. 
> 
      These can be presented either apart from any descriptions of protagonists 
      or their dramas 
> 
      (for confidentiality); or by significantly disguising the protagonists by 
      changing gender, 
> 
      age, occupation and possibly by conflating stories from two or more 
      different clients or 
> protagonists. Clinicians 
      do this fairly often, thus protecting confidentiality.
> 
> 2. Encouraging 
      translating papers from other languages into English
> or from 
      English into other languages. Again, this equals certain 
> amount of 
      training.
> 
> 
      (In the past, I hesitated to suggest this as trainers really needed the 
      money, not the 
> 
      services. However, in the current situation, possibly the choice is 
      between not coming to 
> a workshop or training 
      at all versus coming but paying by barter.)
> 
> 3. Scanning on articles 
      either with .pdf full article scan-on; or with optical 
> recognition into text. 
      But digitizing articles or chapters. Then posting --- especially 
> regarding stuff that's 
      past copyright--- over 40 years old, or ASGPP journal articles, 
> etc.
> This again 
      takes time, some skill, someone to do it: Might students do this 
> if they received 
      training in barter?
> What do you think?
> 
> Warmly, Adam 
> 
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