early journals

[Edward Schreiber]

brilliant and ethical!

On Mar 23, 2009, at 7:47 AM, HV Psychodrama wrote:

> Something Judy and I did something that one year that worked out  
> great for everyone..we had a woman in our therapy group who got  
> divorced in the middle of the year. All of a sudden she  had no  
> money to pay for what was her biggest support during a difficult  
> time. (She was only working two days a week.) We encouraged her to  
> do some volunteer work in exchange for her time in the group...she  
> volunteered at a battered woman's shelter and feeling so useful was  
> surely as healing for her as being in the group at that time of her  
> life.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Edward Schreiber
> To: HV Psychodrama
> Cc: thana ag ; adam blatner ; Adam Barcroft ;  
> list at grouptalkweb.org ; ejs at morenoinstituteeast.org ;  
> amb at morenoinstituteeast.org
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:36 AM
> Subject: Re: early journals
>
> Not actually against the ethics but highly discouraged.
> In my view, bartering is not an activity I want to engage in.
> Ed
>
> On Mar 22, 2009, at 10:32 PM, HV Psychodrama wrote:
>
>> Bartering for training is one thing, but if I remember correctly,  
>> bartering for psychotherapeutic services is against the APA ethics.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: thana ag
>> To: adam blatner ; Adam Barcroft ; list at grouptalkweb.org
>> Cc: ejs at morenoinstituteeast.org ; amb at morenoinstituteeast.org
>> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:23 PM
>> Subject: RE: early journals
>>
>> Hi Adam,
>> Hmm..I was thinking along these line for the past few years,and  
>> recently  with regard to pts who at this point owe me  fees b/c   
>> of  current fiscal difficulties.. so your your idea of bartering  
>> made me think about it harder.......thanks as usual.
>> anath.
>>
>> > From: ablatner at verizon.net
>> > To: amb1111 at mac.com; list at grouptalkweb.org
>> > Subject: early journals
>> > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:59:36 -0500
>> > CC: amb at MorenoInstituteEast.org; ejs at MorenoInstituteEast.org;  
>> ROROBEAR at aol.com
>> >
>> > So Here's my plan. My mission is to promote the dissemination of  
>> information in the
>> > field---aka "scholarship"-- which in turn has a number of sub- 
>> tasks:
>> > 1. Encouraging writing up papers. Many people are giving  
>> workshops. Many students
>> > are taking notes.
>> >
>> > In our era of financial "tight-ness," I wonder if there are not  
>> students who might barter
>> > for training. I wonder about
>> > a. amanuensis services: For notes to be written up well enough  
>> to be published on a
>> > website, x hours of training.
>> > That way the director doesn't have to write it up. We have many  
>> excellent
>> > trainers and practitioners who are leading workshops that have  
>> significant anecdotes,
>> > technique modifications, theoretical rationales, and elucidation  
>> of underlying issues.
>> > These can be presented either apart from any descriptions of  
>> protagonists or their dramas
>> > (for confidentiality); or by significantly disguising the  
>> protagonists by changing gender,
>> > age, occupation and possibly by conflating stories from two or  
>> more different clients or
>> > protagonists. Clinicians do this fairly often, thus protecting  
>> confidentiality.
>> >
>> > 2. Encouraging translating papers from other languages into English
>> > or from English into other languages. Again, this equals certain
>> > amount of training.
>> >
>> > (In the past, I hesitated to suggest this as trainers really  
>> needed the money, not the
>> > services. However, in the current situation, possibly the choice  
>> is between not coming to
>> > a workshop or training at all versus coming but paying by barter.)
>> >
>> > 3. Scanning on articles either with .pdf full article scan-on;  
>> or with optical
>> > recognition into text. But digitizing articles or chapters. Then  
>> posting --- especially
>> > regarding stuff that's past copyright--- over 40 years old, or  
>> ASGPP journal articles,
>> > etc.
>> > This again takes time, some skill, someone to do it: Might  
>> students do this
>> > if they received training in barter?
>> > What do you think?
>> >
>> > Warmly, Adam
>> >
>> >
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