early journals

HV Psychodrama hvpi at hvc.rr.com
Mon Mar 23 06:47:21 CDT 2009


Something Judy and I did something that one year that worked out great for everyone..we had a woman in our therapy group who got divorced in the middle of the year. All of a sudden she  had no money to pay for what was her biggest support during a difficult time. (She was only working two days a week.) We encouraged her to do some volunteer work in exchange for her time in the group...she volunteered at a battered woman's shelter and feeling so useful was surely as healing for her as being in the group at that time of her life. 
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  From: Edward Schreiber 
  To: HV Psychodrama 
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  Subject: Re: early journals


  Not actually against the ethics but highly discouraged.
  In my view, bartering is not an activity I want to engage in.
  Ed


  On Mar 22, 2009, at 10:32 PM, HV Psychodrama wrote:


    Bartering for training is one thing, but if I remember correctly, bartering for psychotherapeutic services is against the APA ethics.
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      From: thana ag
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      Cc: ejs at morenoinstituteeast.org ; amb at morenoinstituteeast.org
      Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:23 PM
      Subject: RE: early journals


      Hi Adam,
      Hmm..I was thinking along these line for the past few years,and recently  with regard to pts who at this point owe me  fees b/c  of  current fiscal difficulties.. so your your idea of bartering made me think about it harder.......thanks as usual.
      anath.

      > From: ablatner at verizon.net
      > To: amb1111 at mac.com; list at grouptalkweb.org
      > Subject: early journals
      > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:59:36 -0500
      > CC: amb at MorenoInstituteEast.org; ejs at MorenoInstituteEast.org; ROROBEAR at aol.com
      > 
      > So Here's my plan. My mission is to promote the dissemination of information in the 
      > field---aka "scholarship"-- which in turn has a number of sub-tasks:
      > 1. Encouraging writing up papers. Many people are giving workshops. Many students 
      > are taking notes.
      > 
      > In our era of financial "tight-ness," I wonder if there are not students who might barter 
      > for training. I wonder about
      > a. amanuensis services: For notes to be written up well enough to be published on a 
      > website, x hours of training.
      > That way the director doesn't have to write it up. We have many excellent 
      > trainers and practitioners who are leading workshops that have significant anecdotes, 
      > technique modifications, theoretical rationales, and elucidation of underlying issues. 
      > These can be presented either apart from any descriptions of protagonists or their dramas 
      > (for confidentiality); or by significantly disguising the protagonists by changing gender, 
      > age, occupation and possibly by conflating stories from two or more different clients or 
      > protagonists. Clinicians do this fairly often, thus protecting confidentiality.
      > 
      > 2. Encouraging translating papers from other languages into English
      > or from English into other languages. Again, this equals certain 
      > amount of training.
      > 
      > (In the past, I hesitated to suggest this as trainers really needed the money, not the 
      > services. However, in the current situation, possibly the choice is between not coming to 
      > a workshop or training at all versus coming but paying by barter.)
      > 
      > 3. Scanning on articles either with .pdf full article scan-on; or with optical 
      > recognition into text. But digitizing articles or chapters. Then posting --- especially 
      > regarding stuff that's past copyright--- over 40 years old, or ASGPP journal articles, 
      > etc.
      > This again takes time, some skill, someone to do it: Might students do this 
      > if they received training in barter?
      > What do you think?
      > 
      > Warmly, Adam 
      > 
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