early journals

[Edward Schreiber]

Not actually against the ethics but highly discouraged.
In my view, bartering is not an activity I want to engage in.
Ed

On Mar 22, 2009, at 10:32 PM, HV Psychodrama wrote:

> Bartering for training is one thing, but if I remember correctly,  
> bartering for psychotherapeutic services is against the APA ethics.
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> From: thana ag
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> Cc: ejs at morenoinstituteeast.org ; amb at morenoinstituteeast.org
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> Subject: RE: early journals
>
> Hi Adam,
> Hmm..I was thinking along these line for the past few years,and  
> recently  with regard to pts who at this point owe me  fees b/c   
> of  current fiscal difficulties.. so your your idea of bartering  
> made me think about it harder.......thanks as usual.
> anath.
>
> > From: ablatner at verizon.net
> > To: amb1111 at mac.com; list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Subject: early journals
> > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:59:36 -0500
> > CC: amb at MorenoInstituteEast.org; ejs at MorenoInstituteEast.org;  
> ROROBEAR at aol.com
> >
> > So Here's my plan. My mission is to promote the dissemination of  
> information in the
> > field---aka "scholarship"-- which in turn has a number of sub-tasks:
> > 1. Encouraging writing up papers. Many people are giving  
> workshops. Many students
> > are taking notes.
> >
> > In our era of financial "tight-ness," I wonder if there are not  
> students who might barter
> > for training. I wonder about
> > a. amanuensis services: For notes to be written up well enough to  
> be published on a
> > website, x hours of training.
> > That way the director doesn't have to write it up. We have many  
> excellent
> > trainers and practitioners who are leading workshops that have  
> significant anecdotes,
> > technique modifications, theoretical rationales, and elucidation  
> of underlying issues.
> > These can be presented either apart from any descriptions of  
> protagonists or their dramas
> > (for confidentiality); or by significantly disguising the  
> protagonists by changing gender,
> > age, occupation and possibly by conflating stories from two or  
> more different clients or
> > protagonists. Clinicians do this fairly often, thus protecting  
> confidentiality.
> >
> > 2. Encouraging translating papers from other languages into English
> > or from English into other languages. Again, this equals certain
> > amount of training.
> >
> > (In the past, I hesitated to suggest this as trainers really  
> needed the money, not the
> > services. However, in the current situation, possibly the choice  
> is between not coming to
> > a workshop or training at all versus coming but paying by barter.)
> >
> > 3. Scanning on articles either with .pdf full article scan-on; or  
> with optical
> > recognition into text. But digitizing articles or chapters. Then  
> posting --- especially
> > regarding stuff that's past copyright--- over 40 years old, or  
> ASGPP journal articles,
> > etc.
> > This again takes time, some skill, someone to do it: Might  
> students do this
> > if they received training in barter?
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Warmly, Adam
> >
> >
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