Transference

Jenny Wilson jenny at blennerhassett.gen.nz
Sun Jul 12 02:09:54 CDT 2009


Hi Peter
If you or others do know of good articles on transference and
psychodrama can you forward me the references please. It is a really
interesting area and I would like to learn more.

Kind regards
Jenny

Peter Howie wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am working up a short term curriculum at present and thought I would
> try and clarify this area of work if anyone is up for a challenge. And
> if it is so old hat and has been covered to death please point me in the
> right direction.
> 
> If the social atom is indeed the smallest unit that we can work with -
> either from a practical or theoretical point of view, then I think it
> stands to reason that transference and counter transference are never
> entirely or even mostly arising from an individuated personality but are
> a product of the larger social atom. 
> 
> When I think like this I am greatly relieved from having to distinguish
> transference from simply having an idea about someone. I find that if
> transference is at work at all, then it seems as if it is at work at all
> times and it is simply a matter of degree (how much is a transference
> from another experience) or degree of importance (how much it interferes
> with current relationships) as to whether or not to work with it. One
> thing I find hard with the idea of transference is that it seems very
> like some of the early template models of the way the brain/mind work. I
> can't seem to separate out the transference part of a relationship from
> say, my memory of the last time we met, or the first time we met, or how
> because you are a Dr I generalise an aspect of my relating to you to all
> the other Drs I know. 
> 
> Can others help me here?
> 
> Mostly I try and use role theory and the idea of the reciprocating
> nature of the way we are with one another. 
> 
> Cheers while I get back to the other task
> 
> Peter in Brisbane
> 
> 
> On 12/07/2009, at 5:58 AM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
> 
>> It seems to me that the whole is larger than its parts, although Zerka
>> has written that psychodrama/sociodrama fall under an umbrella of
>> sociometry.  I think also that the whole method has to include this
>> thing called sociatry, the fourth element to the triadic system.  
>> Thank you Adam and Ann.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Ann Hale wrote:
>>
>>>  
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Ann Hale <mailto:annehale at swva.net>
>>> *To:* Adam Blatner <mailto:adam at blatner.com>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2009 10:28 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: Sociometry Training
>>>
>>> Having a special award may seem like a neat thing to do, but it is
>>> another way to split sociometry off from the action methods, as iff
>>> it exists apart from the integrative whole as envisioned by Moreno. 
>>> Of course you can separate out "techniques" for a structured learning
>>> situation, but it is hard to leave out the applied and action part.
>>>  
>>> Every traumatic event is a sociometric one.  Every warm-up is a
>>> sociometric one.  Every psychodrama, role play, sociodrama,
>>> bibliodrama, soul drama, etc. has a foundation in the the nature of
>>> the interpersonal connections which support the risks taken, the
>>> willing acceptance of roles, and sharing from the heart.  Psychodrama
>>> is full-circle sociometry.
>>>  
>>> Let's just keep on, keeping on the soul train of the whole shebang. 
>>> Ann Hale
>>>
>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>     *From:* Adam Blatner <mailto:ablatner at verizon.net>
>>>     *To:* ABE Psychodrama <mailto:abepsychodrama at yahoo.com> ;
>>>     GroupTalk <mailto:list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>     *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2009 5:26 PM
>>>     *Subject:* Re: Sociometry Training
>>>
>>>     So what about having an ASGPP award for people who make
>>>     substantial contributions to advancing sociometry?   I have
>>>     proposed this recently, and of course folks will need to think
>>>     about it. But it does seem as if sociometry continues to be given
>>>     more weight in the last twenty years. Warmly, Adam
>>>
>>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>>         *From:* ABE Psychodrama <mailto:abepsychodrama at yahoo.com>
>>>         *To:* GroupTalk <mailto:list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>         *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 3:32 PM
>>>         *Subject:* Sociometry Training
>>>
>>>         Dear All,
>>>
>>>         As usual Rebecca and Ann have been most articulate on the
>>>         subject of sociometry.  I would agree that sociometry is best
>>>         taught in training groups and I weave in the Sociometric
>>>         Healing Circle as a way to explore how sociometry impacts
>>>         every relationship that we create.   I also teach the
>>>         unorthodox and that is intrapersonal and transpersonal
>>>         sociometry.  I believe that the same sociometric patterns
>>>         that we create with others we also create within ourselves
>>>         (part of our self, parts of our physical body, etc) and with
>>>         transpersonal figures.  It take a long time, maybe a few
>>>         lifetimes, to really come to accept and be compassionate to
>>>         all.  We can reject something/someone without anger,
>>>         resentment, hurt and judgment.  At least I believe that is
>>>         theoretically possible . I am still working on this myself.  
>>>             
>>>
>>>         Dale Richard Buchanan
>>>
>>>
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