applying sociometry

Sat Jul 4 23:03:52 CDT 2009

 Adam et al, I would like to chime in here I am thinking about your reference to the  development of electricity. I agree it like everything else needed the warm ups to get where are. My thought is about Teisler, who was able to change the current to allow the room to be electrified and generate the  electrical current to run equipment and power a light bulb.  So the relation I am making to the sociometry and psychodrama is that the more we do the more we offer the more warmed people are to express and work on their vulnerabilities. And with time exposure and increased  access  to sociometry in our world we will be influencing the needs of "the whole of mankind" . I would like to refer to my article in this PNN "the  sociometry of hope" . A plug for the institutes.... Which I believe is he technological comparison to the Teisler use of electricity and his distribution system. I am a proponent of taking the wires off (not the "gloves" of discipline or training requirements of the ABE). And get our sociometry out for the masses to role reverse, play and be warmed up to one another inclusive. A possibly re nurturing of the world missing since Adam and Eve did whatever they did that started the chain reaction human beings taking from our children and one another,  rather than nurturing and giving to each other.
>> So thanks for the info on Anns book and the flow of sociometric energy
>> Dave

Dave Moran LCSW Consultant

Healing the Body as well as the Mind

http://mindbodyandhealth.isagenix.com/us/en/nutrition.dhtml

----- Original Message -----

From: Adam Blatner 

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Sent: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:03:41 +0000 (UTC)

Subject: applying sociometry

I agree that sociometry might someday become the 

basis of a powerful approach to inter-group conflict resolution, 

consciousness-raising, etc. I was struck by Ann's comment: "Learning to use sociometric methods is not a 

comfortable learning. You have to face your personal deficits, your value 

system, your needs, and what rejection feels like, when receiving it, or giving 

it.  The payoff is the restoration of hope and the managability of complex, 

intersecting lives." 

     AB: Yes, and so warming people up to face 

personal defecits, etc., is the problem for those who may not yet believe 

that this method will have an adequate payoff. Getting people interested enough 

to develop this degree of self-awareness, to develop the inner strength that 

makes the stress worthwhile, --- this is a level of warming-up that most people 

aren't prepared for.

        Yet I think we can continue to 

work towards developing an infrastructure of related methods that can help 

people become more ready for personal growth, and to value the 

self-confrontation that it implies. 

       (I'm reading about the history of 

science now, and impressed with the way many different inventions needed to come 

together over decades for a new application to finally begin to work. 

Electricity, for example, needed the development of technologies that could 

ensure adequate insulation, store increasing charges, and so 

forth.)

       If anyone you know is actually using 

sociometric methods with groups, it is important that we can read about it, 

ponder it, see how it works. (Especially, how do you get people to be willing to 

(1) come to such a group setting; (2) go to a level of personal self-disclosure 

that renders them so vulnerable? The warm ups for these stages would be 

most interesting.   I know it's not easy to put into writing, but 

that's the way other professionals learn, short of watching videos (which then 

has problems in confidentiality). 

          Warmly, 

Adam

----- Original Message ----- 

From: 

  CGayle 

To: Ann Hale ; list at grouptalkweb.org 

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:45 

  AM

Subject: Re: Moreno's sociometry: a wake 

  up call

Hi Ann, 

Thanks for the wake up call!   It helps 

  to have community, albeit miles away, interested in these issues.  It's a 

  shot of adrenaline.

Did you and others note, on the ncdd.org site 

  there is an international conference on "Engaging the Other: the power of 

  compassion" in November in Calif.  It's sociatry. Looks like 

  they may be still taking proposals (says to email someone...not sure 

  if that is dated).  I hope you'll consider a proposal, Ann.  And 

  Ed...and others.  

Cynthia Gayle

----- Original Message ----- 

From: 

    Ann Hale 

To: grouptalk 

Cc: Sue McMunn ; Karendruck at aol.com ; American Board of Examiners 

Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:21 

    AM

Subject: Moreno's sociometry: a wake up 

    call

On June 20, 2009 the U.S. Secretary of State, Hillary Rodham Clinton, 

    reported the U.S. is committed to helping the world's 34 million 

    refugees (my italics) build safe and fulfilling lives, calling their 

    struggle a "humanitarian emergency."  (Associated Press, June 20, 2009, 

    09:19am EDT) What Clinton is describing is the need for a qualitative and a 

    quantitative response. What is needed are methods with deeply humanitarian 

    belief systems capable of examining and resolving a crisis of this 

    magnitude, and capable of assisting one person at a time find "Where do I 

    fit on this planet? and "Will I be able to practice my religion, support my 

    family, feel safe and connected when I arrive?"  (If you will remember 

    Moreno got his start resettling refugees in Mitterndorf in 1915-1917. It is 

    here he discovered the connection between preference and lessening of 

    conflict.)

At a time when psychodramatists in the US are complaining about 

    decreasing interest, enrollment and membership, etc. the need for our 

    methods is escalating.  For years it has been documented that the 

    sociometry section of the American Board exams has the highest borderline 

    and failing grades.  Students don't seem to know more than how to do 

    "step into the circle if you like pizza"  or "put you hand on someone 

    who appears to be similar to you in some way".  There is a huge 

    methodology awaiting our membership and trainees, and a huge need. No, 

    psychodrama, is disappearing from texts and journals. Whole books such as 

    the popular "Social Intelligence (Goleman) can appear without one reference 

    to Moreno.  It is past time that we examine ourselves for choosing to 

    retreat to the safety of private practice and align ourselves with mental 

    health when we could have been preparing large numbers of students to 

    intervene and strategize and resolve some of the sociodynamics which 

    lead to devestating social and political problems. I am not just 

    pointing fingers. I know myself to be underutilized and not involved to the 

    level of my capability.

Playback Theater has risen to the challenge, and a scattering of 

    psychodramatists are looking at the big picture.  I am grateful for 

    every one of you who takes the method to points of crisis.  If we want 

    our methods to be more available to those who need them we need to make 

    sociometry more available on a global scale.

The Obama administration opened the Office of Public Engagement in 

    February, 2009.  Their Core Priniciples (7) are listed on the website 

    of the National Coalition for Dialogue and Deliberation.  If you want 

    to you can go to www.sociometry.net 

    and get linked to this.  Our current government is open to our 

    methodology.  Let's respond!

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