political themes on grouptalk

[Edward Schreiber]

Thanks Ann, yes I will give a head's up - and my preference would  
also be to say, "here's an attachment if you want to read it" but  
attachments are not a great idea.  The tie-in to our Method comes  
from my read of the stories of Zerka and JL as activists.  One story  
in a black college in the south.  This is our times now, an age of  
real change.  Best,  Ed
On Jan 24, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Ann Hale wrote:

> I agree it is in a grey area. I understand why it was sent out.  
> Perhaps we could all consider the viability of posts and give a  
> "heads up" sentence or two and leave a web address people could use  
> to learn more about the topic.  I prefer this to people dropping  
> off the list who are "purists". Ann Hale
> ----- Original Message ----- Over the years quite a few  
> psychodramatistsFrom: Adam Blatner
> To: Edward Schreiber ; Grouptalk Listserv
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:20 AM
> Subject: political themes on grouptalk
>
> Dear Ed and all,
>     This piece moves me to question what we want and do not want to  
> be included on this listserve. Some other inputs from others will  
> be needed to help clarify.
>  It seems to me that there's a grey area: Sociatry gets idealistic,  
> but blurs over into indignation about this or that political issue.  
> It seems possible to fill this listserve content with various  
> people's thoughts about one or another issue that has very little  
> if anything to do with psychodrama, sociodrama, sociometry, group  
> psychotherapy, etc.
>        Even if we do claim sociatry, there should be some more  
> descriptions about how exactly and specifically Morenian methods  
> are being used---not vague ideas about how they might someday be  
> used in some imagined, "maybe someone will come up with a way  
> to..." fashion.
>
>       For example, in this last message from Ed:
> with the subject: Fwd: As we enter the Obama era,there are many  
> unanswered questions about the full extent of the domestic spying  
> that took place under Bush, including whether it is still going on
>           A. I think we should try to edit subject lines
>    B. Ed says: these are issues of sociatry in my opinion.
>             Adam: I think this stretches the definition to and  
> beyond the edge. What do others think?
>         Ed, can you spell out in any specific way how there's  
> anything that we can do about this from a Morenian viewpoint other  
> than to get out and work with our local political committees to  
> (write letters to congress; promote the election of people who we  
> feel will support our political preferences, etc.?).
>
>     C. Might this long forwarded message be simply alluded to as a  
> URL (website) that we could look up if we wanted to? Why should all  
> of the content of this long screed be in the body of our email?
>
>       Warmly, Adam
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "doug wilson" <dougw at rowecenter.org>
>> Date: January 24, 2009 7:37:10 AM EST
>> To: <dougw at rowecenter.org>
>> Subject: As we enter the Obama era, there are many unanswered  
>> questions about the full extent of the domestic spying that took  
>> place under Bush, including whether it is still going on
>> Reply-To: <dougw at rowecenter.org>
>>
>> <006301c97e36$c634c290$0301a8c0>
>>
>> Whistleblower Levels Shocking Allegations at Bush's Spying Programs
>> By Liliana Segura, AlterNet
>> Posted on January 24, 2009, Printed on January 24, 2009
>> http://www.alternet.org/story/122234/
>>
>> On Jan. 21, former U.S. intelligence official Russell Tice  
>> appeared on MSNBC's "Countdown with Keith Olbermannn" and broke a  
>> sobering bit of news that, sandwiched between Obama's inauguration  
>> and sweeping executive orders, went largely ignored by the media:  
>> Under the Bush administration's notorious warrantless spying  
>> program, not only did the NSA eavesdrop on millions of Americans,  
>> it turns out it specifically targeted "U.S. news organizations,  
>> reporters and journalists."  .... etc. for several pages
>>
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