Fwd: ASGPP Annual Meeting Agenda Item and conserves

Fri Feb 27 17:51:56 CST 2009

>
> Thanks Ann,
> I love the idea of a retreat location!
> Best,
> Ed
>
> On Feb 27, 2009, at 3:44 PM, Ann Hale wrote:
>
>> In Europe there is a conserve that training centers offer training  
>> series during the academic year and the months of July and August  
>> reserved for family time. BPA has often had their meetings in  
>> August and avail themselves to campuses. In Australia and NZ their  
>> meetings are in January because that IS the summer. For trainers  
>> who want to offer residential training (such as a week long) our  
>> conserve in the US has been to offer those in the summer, with  
>> occasional workshops during the year.
>>
>> One objection I have heard from TEPs who offer residential training 
>> ( and I have been one) is that students only have so much income  
>> they can earmark for their on-going training.  When ASGPP looks at  
>> summer possibilities then TEPs feel that their parent organization  
>> is competing with the very people who underwrite the basic cost of  
>> putting on a conference.  Trainers (100+) pay their conference fee  
>> as well table rentals, paid program advertisements, as well as  
>> donated goods for the silent auction and their workshop time as  
>> presenters.  As a group we  supply 75% of the income ASGPP  
>> receives from conferences.
>>
>> I like very much the idea of college campuses or retreat locations  
>> in an affordable range.  And, I also don't want to lose the option  
>> of offering residential week-long training due to low  
>> enrollments.  I  find this is the format which makes investigating  
>> a training group using sociometric measures one that allows me to  
>> come closer to finishing the resulting group process.
>>
>> I do think it is time the Executive consider the prices of hotel  
>> accomodation, and find other options, even if we need to decrease  
>> the number of workshops offered.
>> Ann Hale
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Edward Schreiber
>> To: HV Psychodrama
>> Cc: grouptalk Listserv
>> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Annual Meeting Agenda Item
>>
>> There is no evidence to support the belief that a conference
>> over the summer would draw less.  What would be less anyway
>> than the numbers now?
>>
>> In fact, the evidence suggests the opposite.
>> The IAGP Conferences are in August and draw many.
>> The Expressive Therapies Conference this year is in August at
>> Lesley University.
>>
>> The question I have to the ASGPP is:  do we have the courage
>> to change the conserve and is there the will and the leadership?
>>
>> The IAGP Academy has an extraordinary design for it's Academy,
>> where real training can take place in "tracks" and a large group,
>> the entire conference, works together.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> On Feb 26, 2009, at 7:56 AM, HV Psychodrama wrote:
>>
>>>  When Mario Cossa and I were on the council we brought this up (7  
>>> to 8 years ago) . One of the legitimate concerns is that  
>>> conferences in July and August don't seem to draw as many folks  
>>> as ones in the spring, at least in the US, HOWEVER, there is no  
>>> reason we can't plan our conference for mid to late May or even  
>>> early June, shortly after the colleges have finished their spring  
>>> semesters.
>>>
>>> And as one of those trainers for whom this might interfere with  
>>> summer programs....hey, if we don't increase attendance at the  
>>> conferences,   people won't  become and stay connected to  
>>> psychodrama in the first place and that will really interfere  
>>> with our programs.
>>>
>>> Also, it may come as a shock to us, but the purpose of the ASGPP  
>>> conference is NOT to fill our training programs but to promote  
>>> psychodrama.
>>>
>>> Rebecca
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Edward Schreiber
>>> To: grouptalk Listserv
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:09 AM
>>> Subject: ASGPP Annual Meeting Agenda Item
>>>
>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>
>>> We want to advise you that we have requested that the following  
>>> agenda item be placed on the agenda
>>> for the ASGPP Annual Meeting.  This is in response to the ASGPP  
>>> President's call for agenda items in
>>> the last PNN.
>>>
>>> Respectfully submitted,
>>>
>>> Edward Schreiber
>>> Rosalie Minkin
>>>
>>> Please include the following item for the agenda for the Annual  
>>> Meeting:
>>>
>>>
>>> In our work with Antony Williams at an Annual Meeting some years  
>>> ago we the heard voices from students and many new members asking  
>>> for a National Conference to take place at a college campus so  
>>> that affordability was a priority.
>>>
>>> From that discussion some years ago, concerns emerged that such a  
>>> change would impact the financial viability of trainers who offer  
>>> summer training. And yet our reliance on hotels has diminished  
>>> the attendance of our National Conferences. In addition, the  
>>> Conference format has remained a cultural conserve. Our European  
>>> colleagues in the IAGP Summer Academy in Granada Spain have  
>>> advanced a conference model. In this model extensive training is  
>>> provided.
>>>
>>> We propose that a working group be formed now, to establish a  
>>> 2011 Conference at a college campus with a redesign of a  
>>> conference format. The formation of a working group be formed now  
>>> to begin with a review of the IAGP Summer Academy's format, and a  
>>> college campus based 2011 Conference.
>>> Respectfully submitted,
>>>
>>> Edward Schreiber
>>> Rosalie Minkin
>>>
>>>
>>>
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