ASGPP Annual Meeting Agenda Item and conserves

Fri Feb 27 17:51:03 CST 2009

One of the advantages for me of the student accommodation option,  
where it exists or equivalent such a small communal type dwellings as  
we had in Adelaide a couple of times, is that there is a closeness and  
exclusiveness that has seriously big upsides for a virtual/ 
professional community that doesn't get together that often. I don't  
think this happens so much when run in the larger venues. It is  
certainly  must be a different experience. I have yet to avail myself  
of it but the time is coming closer when I will get over there.

Down to one child at the moment in need of our care.

Then the various international options will emerge more for me. I have  
many colleagues who travel over to the US and European programs - John  
Barton for one, Kate Hill was a regular and others. I think we have  
less travelling over to the US now as the ones we have here are so  
good that everything else is a let down...oops....I am skiting....nah  
I'm being objective, really!!! ;)

Of course for those souls who need more time alone than I might, then  
the larger venues may well suit, as they allow more anonymity which  
certainly has its upsides.

Cheers for now

Peter in Brisbane

On 28/02/2009, at 9:18 AM, Ann Hale wrote:

> Conserves, realities and trying something new
>
>
> In Europe there is a conserve that training centers offer training  
> series during the academic year and the months of July and August  
> reserved for family time. BPA has often had their meetings in August  
> and avail themselves to campuses. In Australia and NZ their meetings  
> are in January because that IS the summer. For trainers who want to  
> offer residential training (such as a week long) our conserve in the  
> US has been to offer those in the summer, with occasional workshops  
> during the year.
>
> One objection I have heard from TEPs who offer residential  
> training( and I have been one) is that students only have so much  
> income they can earmark for their on-going training.  When ASGPP  
> looks at summer possibilities then TEPs feel that their parent  
> organization is competing with the very people who underwrite the  
> basic cost of putting on a conference.  Trainers (100+) pay their  
> conference fee as well table rentals, paid program advertisements,  
> as well as donated goods for the silent auction and their workshop  
> time as presenters.  As a group we  supply 75% of the income ASGPP  
> receives from conferences.
>
> I like very much the idea of college campuses or retreat locations  
> in an affordable range.  And, I also don't want to lose the option  
> of offering residential week-long training due to low enrollments.   
> I  find this is the format which makes investigating a training  
> group using sociometric measures one that allows me to come closer  
> to finishing the resulting group process.
>
> I do think it is time the Executive consider the prices of hotel  
> accomodation, and find other options, even if we need to decrease  
> the number of workshops offered.
> Ann Hale
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Edward Schreiber
> To: HV Psychodrama
> Cc: grouptalk Listserv
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:03 AM
> Subject: Re: ASGPP Annual Meeting Agenda Item
>
> There is no evidence to support the belief that a conference
> over the summer would draw less.  What would be less anyway
> than the numbers now?
>
> In fact, the evidence suggests the opposite.
> The IAGP Conferences are in August and draw many.
> The Expressive Therapies Conference this year is in August at
> Lesley University.
>
> The question I have to the ASGPP is:  do we have the courage
> to change the conserve and is there the will and the leadership?
>
> The IAGP Academy has an extraordinary design for it's Academy,
> where real training can take place in "tracks" and a large group,
> the entire conference, works together.
>
>
>
> Ed
>
>
> On Feb 26, 2009, at 7:56 AM, HV Psychodrama wrote:
>
>>  When Mario Cossa and I were on the council we brought this up (7  
>> to 8 years ago) . One of the legitimate concerns is that  
>> conferences in July and August don't seem to draw as many folks as  
>> ones in the spring, at least in the US, HOWEVER, there is no reason  
>> we can't plan our conference for mid to late May or even early  
>> June, shortly after the colleges have finished their spring  
>> semesters.
>>
>> And as one of those trainers for whom this might interfere with  
>> summer programs....hey, if we don't increase attendance at the  
>> conferences,   people won't  become and stay connected to  
>> psychodrama in the first place and that will really interfere with  
>> our programs.
>>
>> Also, it may come as a shock to us, but the purpose of the ASGPP  
>> conference is NOT to fill our training programs but to promote  
>> psychodrama.
>>
>> Rebecca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Edward Schreiber
>> To: grouptalk Listserv
>> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:09 AM
>> Subject: ASGPP Annual Meeting Agenda Item
>>
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> We want to advise you that we have requested that the following  
>> agenda item be placed on the agenda
>> for the ASGPP Annual Meeting.  This is in response to the ASGPP  
>> President's call for agenda items in
>> the last PNN.
>>
>> Respectfully submitted,
>>
>> Edward Schreiber
>> Rosalie Minkin
>>
>> Please include the following item for the agenda for the Annual  
>> Meeting:
>>
>>
>> In our work with Antony Williams at an Annual Meeting some years  
>> ago we the heard voices from students and many new members asking  
>> for a National Conference to take place at a college campus so that  
>> affordability was a priority.
>>
>> From that discussion some years ago, concerns emerged that such a  
>> change would impact the financial viability of trainers who offer  
>> summer training. And yet our reliance on hotels has diminished the  
>> attendance of our National Conferences. In addition, the Conference  
>> format has remained a cultural conserve. Our European colleagues in  
>> the IAGP Summer Academy in Granada Spain have advanced a conference  
>> model. In this model extensive training is provided.
>>
>> We propose that a working group be formed now, to establish a 2011  
>> Conference at a college campus with a redesign of a conference  
>> format. The formation of a working group be formed now to begin  
>> with a review of the IAGP Summer Academy's format, and a college  
>> campus based 2011 Conference.
>> Respectfully submitted,
>>
>> Edward Schreiber
>> Rosalie Minkin
>>
>>
>>
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