Fw: ASGPP Annual Meeting Agenda Item and conserves

[Ann Hale]

Conserves, realities and trying something new


In Europe there is a conserve that training centers offer training series during the academic year and the months of July and August reserved for family time. BPA has often had their meetings in August and avail themselves to campuses. In Australia and NZ their meetings are in January because that IS the summer. For trainers who want to offer residential training (such as a week long) our conserve in the US has been to offer those in the summer, with occasional workshops during the year.  

One objection I have heard from TEPs who offer residential training( and I have been one) is that students only have so much income they can earmark for their on-going training.  When ASGPP looks at summer possibilities then TEPs feel that their parent organization is competing with the very people who underwrite the basic cost of putting on a conference.  Trainers (100+) pay their conference fee as well table rentals, paid program advertisements, as well as donated goods for the silent auction and their workshop time as presenters.  As a group we  supply 75% of the income ASGPP receives from conferences.

I like very much the idea of college campuses or retreat locations in an affordable range.  And, I also don't want to lose the option of offering residential week-long training due to low enrollments.  I  find this is the format which makes investigating a training group using sociometric measures one that allows me to come closer to finishing the resulting group process.

I do think it is time the Executive consider the prices of hotel accomodation, and find other options, even if we need to decrease the number of workshops offered.
Ann Hale
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Edward Schreiber 
  To: HV Psychodrama 
  Cc: grouptalk Listserv 
  Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:03 AM
  Subject: Re: ASGPP Annual Meeting Agenda Item


  There is no evidence to support the belief that a conference 
  over the summer would draw less.  What would be less anyway
  than the numbers now?


  In fact, the evidence suggests the opposite.  
  The IAGP Conferences are in August and draw many.
  The Expressive Therapies Conference this year is in August at
  Lesley University.


  The question I have to the ASGPP is:  do we have the courage
  to change the conserve and is there the will and the leadership?


  The IAGP Academy has an extraordinary design for it's Academy,
  where real training can take place in "tracks" and a large group,
  the entire conference, works together.






  Ed




  On Feb 26, 2009, at 7:56 AM, HV Psychodrama wrote:


     When Mario Cossa and I were on the council we brought this up (7 to 8 years ago) . One of the legitimate concerns is that conferences in July and August don't seem to draw as many folks as ones in the spring, at least in the US, HOWEVER, there is no reason we can't plan our conference for mid to late May or even early June, shortly after the colleges have finished their spring semesters.

    And as one of those trainers for whom this might interfere with summer programs....hey, if we don't increase attendance at the conferences,   people won't  become and stay connected to psychodrama in the first place and that will really interfere with our programs.

    Also, it may come as a shock to us, but the purpose of the ASGPP conference is NOT to fill our training programs but to promote psychodrama.

    Rebecca




      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Edward Schreiber
      To: grouptalk Listserv
      Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:09 AM
      Subject: ASGPP Annual Meeting Agenda Item


      Dear Colleagues, 


      We want to advise you that we have requested that the following agenda item be placed on the agenda
      for the ASGPP Annual Meeting.  This is in response to the ASGPP President's call for agenda items in
      the last PNN.


      Respectfully submitted,


      Edward Schreiber
      Rosalie Minkin


      Please include the following item for the agenda for the Annual Meeting:




      In our work with Antony Williams at an Annual Meeting some years ago we the heard voices from students and many new members asking for a National Conference to take place at a college campus so that affordability was a priority. 


      From that discussion some years ago, concerns emerged that such a change would impact the financial viability of trainers who offer summer training. And yet our reliance on hotels has diminished the attendance of our National Conferences. In addition, the Conference format has remained a cultural conserve. Our European colleagues in the IAGP Summer Academy in Granada Spain have advanced a conference model. In this model extensive training is provided. 


      We propose that a working group be formed now, to establish a 2011 Conference at a college campus with a redesign of a conference format. The formation of a working group be formed now to begin with a review of the IAGP Summer Academy's format, and a college campus based 2011 Conference.
      Respectfully submitted, 


      Edward Schreiber 
      Rosalie Minkin 







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