ASGPP Annual Meeting Agenda Item

HV Psychodrama hvpi at hvc.rr.com
Thu Feb 26 12:19:12 CST 2009


  There is a conference committee for each conference. It is usually members who are not on the council. If people want to get together and put forth a conference proposal for 2011, I am sure the council will consider it. I would also encourage those of you who want to have more input to run for the council....One caveat; there was some talk about 2011 being a joint Creative Arts Therapy conference...I don't know what's happening with that, but folks may want to find out and take on the 2012 conference if the 2011 is going to be a NCATA conference.




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Adam Blatner 
  To: Edward Schreiber 
  Cc: grouptalk Listserv 
  Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:28 AM
  Subject: ASGPP Annual Meeting Agenda Item


  Dear All, Here's a comment on the process rather than the content of the question as to the idea of changing the time and location of the conference.

      First, it's not that much of a conserve. Conferences have been held at non-typical locations----20? years ago at a resort in the Pocono mountains, for example.

       But, Ed, your last email---while I appreciate your enthusiasm in this difficult time (historically and economically of flagging morale)---what you wrote "begs the question," implying that anyone who has what seems to him or her a plausible or fair reason for doing other than what you suggest is 
       (1) operating on NO evidence.     (how do you know until you've respectfully listened and considered other viewpoints?)

       (2) or that anyone who even thinks of disagreeing either lacks courage or will or is beholden to the conserve---this is called "attribution of motivation."  This argument implies that anyone who might disagree for what seems to them to be truly valid reasons is "really" being driven by unworthy unconscious motivations that we know but the person denies. This is a shabby manipulation that was practiced a lot by the early psychoanalysts in their disputes with each other. 

    I haven't considered this option and am very  open to what you're suggesting. I have no objection to the content of the suggestion. I would like folks to think about the pros and cons. I just don't think we should "beg the question" by assuming that any new idea is a good idea by virtue of its being new. Some new ideas are really bad ideas if one thinks about it; and some are really quite good.

         Warmly, Adam
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Edward Schreiber 
    To: HV Psychodrama 
    Cc: grouptalk Listserv 
    Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:03 AM
    Subject: Re: ASGPP Annual Meeting Agenda Item


    There is no evidence to support the belief that a conference 
    over the summer would draw less.  What would be less anyway
    than the numbers now?


    In fact, the evidence suggests the opposite.  
    The IAGP Conferences are in August and draw many.
    The Expressive Therapies Conference this year is in August at
    Lesley University.


    The question I have to the ASGPP is:  do we have the courage
    to change the conserve and is there the will and the leadership?


    The IAGP Academy has an extraordinary design for it's Academy,
    where real training can take place in "tracks" and a large group,
    the entire conference, works together.






    Ed




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