ASGPP Annual Meeting Agenda Item

[Edward Schreiber]

I am asking for a working group to be formed.  This is not "shabby  
manipulation".  And yes, it's true, I listen to the voices who say  
the Conference is too expensive and frankly outdated in my opinion.   
I say this because I've experienced an advanced structure, noted by  
the IAGP's Academy.  And I am calling the question to the floor at  
the ASGPP to form a group to redesign the Conference and bring it to  
a college campus where housing, meals, etc. can be offered.

Ed


On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Adam Blatner wrote:

> Dear All, Here's a comment on the process rather than the content  
> of the question as to the idea of changing the time and location of  
> the conference.
>
>     First, it's not that much of a conserve. Conferences have been  
> held at non-typical locations----20? years ago at a resort in the  
> Pocono mountains, for example.
>
>      But, Ed, your last email---while I appreciate your enthusiasm  
> in this difficult time (historically and economically of flagging  
> morale)---what you wrote "begs the question," implying that anyone  
> who has what seems to him or her a plausible or fair reason for  
> doing other than what you suggest is
>      (1) operating on NO evidence.     (how do you know until  
> you've respectfully listened and considered other viewpoints?)
>
>      (2) or that anyone who even thinks of disagreeing either lacks  
> courage or will or is beholden to the conserve---this is called  
> "attribution of motivation."  This argument implies that anyone who  
> might disagree for what seems to them to be truly valid reasons is  
> "really" being driven by unworthy unconscious motivations that we  
> know but the person denies. This is a shabby manipulation that was  
> practiced a lot by the early psychoanalysts in their disputes with  
> each other.
>
>   I haven't considered this option and am very  open to what you're  
> suggesting. I have no objection to the content of the suggestion. I  
> would like folks to think about the pros and cons. I just don't  
> think we should "beg the question" by assuming that any new idea is  
> a good idea by virtue of its being new. Some new ideas are really  
> bad ideas if one thinks about it; and some are really quite good.
>
>        Warmly, Adam
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Edward Schreiber
> To: HV Psychodrama
> Cc: grouptalk Listserv
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:03 AM
> Subject: Re: ASGPP Annual Meeting Agenda Item
>
> There is no evidence to support the belief that a conference
> over the summer would draw less.  What would be less anyway
> than the numbers now?
>
> In fact, the evidence suggests the opposite.
> The IAGP Conferences are in August and draw many.
> The Expressive Therapies Conference this year is in August at
> Lesley University.
>
> The question I have to the ASGPP is:  do we have the courage
> to change the conserve and is there the will and the leadership?
>
> The IAGP Academy has an extraordinary design for it's Academy,
> where real training can take place in "tracks" and a large group,
> the entire conference, works together.
>
>
>
> Ed
>
>

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