Request for ideas/suggestions for people who assist with setting upnew groups et al
Ann Hale
annehale at swva.net
Tue Feb 10 21:43:50 CST 2009
I find that these sort of arrangements, even when expressed as "thank yous" elevate the status of the persons within the target group where you are the facilitator and makes another area of role complexity for the group who have assembled for supervision or training. Of course, you are pleased to have their assistance. They do benefit by having the workshops in their area, decreasing their travel time/expense and they benefit from having the trainer of their choice. These are no "light" considerations, Peter.
As a professional field we have hardly done the work that is needed to sort out the pitfalls which exist from having a method which uses projection onto others, scant de-roling, while also, as trainers, gate keeping for a profession all balled up with the occasional director of deeply therapeutic work which takes place in the training setting.
I think it further complicates things to compensate trainees via discounts or other means when they assist with organizing training events. What I prefer as a trainer, if someone wants me to come to their area, is ask for a contact person in their area, outside of the target group, and do my own negotiating and arrangements. The students can beat the bushes for participants if they want the workshop to go, but this is not compensated. One of the greatest "gifts" we can give students is the ability to maintain boundaries which allow them full access to the student/learner role.
The Toronto Centre has as part of their training program a "training assistant" role which is clearly defined and time limited. This might be the way to proceed so that the person knows they are not in the workshop as a trainee, but in a training assistant capacity. The role shifts around and is part of a level of training, past the auxiliary ego level.
I write a letter of thank you when a person has gone beyond the usual. And, when that person graduates the training program I have many ways to add to their congratulations.
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Howie
To: grouptalk
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:50 PM
Subject: Request for ideas/suggestions for people who assist with setting upnew groups et al
Hi there,
I have recently been working with some people who are helping me set up some groups in their area - which is 45 - 60 minutes from where I am. Still local-ish. These groups will be professional supervision for managers and school principals and others. The other is a psychodrama experiential training type group run as group work, leadership and coaching for managers and leaders in the same area.
These two people are doing a lot of connecting me into their networks. They also feel a great reciprocal value in my working with them and their colleagues, peers and others. I am conscious that when the group runs later in the year that I owe them - so to speak.
My request is this: What are others norms and ways of repaying, supporting, thanking people who provide this kind of much need support?
My thoughts without decisions range from: 1) Discount for the program (how much) 2) Free placement when the group reaches a certain number 3) Discount on other programs or free other programs.
Thoughts? reponses?
Cheers guys
Peter in Brisbane
Peter Howie B.Sc, TEP
Managing Director
The Moreno Collegium for Human Centred Learning, Research and Development
0411 873 851
www.morenocollegium.com.au
On 09/02/2009, at 9:50 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
native people often speak in metaphoric images, which the eagle is, seeing beyond the ordinary!
On Feb 9, 2009, at 5:50 AM, Neil Hucker wrote:
Thanks linda, it did seem a bit far fetched.
neil----- Original Message -----
From: Linda Condon
To: grouptalk ; Neil Hucker
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: REBIRTH OF THE EAGLE---ABSOLUTELY AMAZING
Just wanted to pass this on...Linda
Linda- Check out www.snopes.com under 'critters'. Unfortunately, this is not true. Eagles are amazing just as they are without this powerpoint distorting what they do in nature. Am hoping that the new administration will find time in all their challenges to remember wildlife and the environment. In the meantime, we can respect and enjoy our own neighborhood critters and landscapes. Love, Christina
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Neil Hucker <eddy1 at labyrinth.net.au> wrote:
From: Neil Hucker <eddy1 at labyrinth.net.au>
Subject: Fw: REBIRTH OF THE EAGLE---ABSOLUTELY AMAZING
To: "grouptalk" <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 8:23 PM
Hello grouptalkers and listeners.
I loved this. It would be wondeful if it is true.
neil
Subject: FW: REBIRTH OF THE EAGLE---ABSOLUTELY AMAZING
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Truly amazing!
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