writing requirements

[Adam Blatner]

Dear LInda and all, please note that I am not suggesting or advocating such a rule. I'm just bringing it up as a topic for open discussion. I think your response reflects the sense of the majority, and perhaps it has been why the Board so far has agreed with you. It is just that this sentiment is by no means universal internationally.
        Whether the Board might see fit to compromise and offer some credit or incentive, hour-equivalents, etc. -- for those who do extend themselves thus is still an open possibility. Other possibilities is the use of the amanuensis, a co-therapist, student, someone who will take notes, and/or use the director's experience and thoughts and do much of the writing. Many academic centers have this co-authorship possibility, with the main director or person with ideas (but doesn't feel comfortable in writing skills) pairing with someone who has less experience, insight, but finds writing to be more congenial. 
         Another possibility is to see if anyone will help with editing and the writer makes a rough draft, with no pretensions to being well-written. The editor makes suggestions. They dialogue. The primary writer is open to suggestions (just as a good actor is open to taking direction from a director). It goes back and forth several times with both sides being patient and helping out. I've done this with a few people. 

          The point is to build a foundation in the published literature that can be referred to by trainers when dealing with wary colleagues in other disciplines. 

         Warmly, Adam
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Linda Condon 
  To: adam blatner ; Edward Schreiber ; thana ag 
  Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:21 PM
  Subject: RE: writing requirements


        Okay, let me try again.  I've been following this conversation about the writing requirement.  And I had a couple of thoughts.  First, I felt like I'd written a thesis by the time I finished the written TEP test that the Board gave.  Not just the actual test but the preparing for it and writing out answer after answer.  So, we are required to write in order to assume the role of TEP.  Granted it's not a journal article but it is still creative written material that demonstrates the ability to perform the role of TEP.  Secondly, I think that in some ways it would be a shame to limit the role of TEP only to those who have the ability to write a 'journal article'.  There are many very creative trainers who are able to demonstrate and teach psychodrama, soicodrama, and sociometry but who perhaps aren't the best of writers.  Not that it's not important for those who have the ability and desire to write to do so, we need a body of literature in our field, but not everyone is called or able to demonstrate and share their knowledge in that manner.  Just a couple of thoughts.  Linda

        Linda Condon, LMHC, TEP 
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        Trainer, Educator, and Practitioner of Psychodrama 
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        --- On Tue, 8/18/09, thana ag <anathga at hotmail.com> wrote:


          From: thana ag <anathga at hotmail.com>
          Subject: RE: writing requirements
          To: "adam blatner" <adam at blatner.com>, "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
          Cc: "list at grouptalkweb.org" <list at grouptalkweb.org>
          Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 7:20 PM


          Dear Adam,
          I love your suggestion!i
          I wonder why did Zerka change the requirement  that thesis be good enough to be published in the journal,(or perhaps it was a provilege?) or is  possible that the  subsequent  theseses were not good enough to be published?!
          anath



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          From: ablatner at verizon.net
          To: edwschreiber at earthlink.net; anathga at hotmail.com
          CC: adam at blatner.com; jenreis at comcast.net; list at grouptalkweb.org
          Subject: writing requirements
          Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:51:40 -0500



          Regarding  Edward Schreiber 's comments today: As noted, Zerka continues to require a thesis for certification even now although I'm not sure if  she is still certifying people. Ed   

              Adam: Wow! This means that perhaps there are some theses that could be converted with a little editing into publishable articles. Is there any way we can encourage folks to do that? 
                There are other journals such as the Journal of Creativity in Mental Health,   or the British Journal of Psychodrama & Sociodrama, or the Arts in Psychotherapy, etc., or perhaps post on a website. The point is to seek to strengthen our field via the professional literature base.  Should we ask Zerka or some of the folks attending her workshops or what--- what do you suggest?  

              Warmly, Adam

          On Aug 17, 2009, at 10:09 AM, thana ag wrote: This requirement for w written thesis  went into effect in 1971 or perhaps 1972, it lasted most definetely  until 1974,though it is worth finding out whether it continued for as long as Zerka was in charge of the Institute in Beacon in Beacon,which I assummed it did..  Sadly ,I can't recall articles in Journal that specified the article was a thesis towards certification in the eighties. I maybe wrong.  anath responding to Adam's previous : As far as I know, at present the Board has no requirements for any written work. This might make for an interesing socio-axiodrama at the conference, or at least a conversation hour. As I said below, the loss of our journal is due more to the dearth of submissions than to the low membership. 
              Anath mentioned that Zerka used to ask for a thesis for certification. If this is so, it would be useful to dig those up and perhaps polish them up, update them, and post them on some website or, if we ever get around to re-starting a journal, submitting them for consideration.   
             Warmly, Adam 


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