List Digest, Vol 38, Issue 7

Fri Aug 7 06:07:49 CDT 2009

 From Tom TREADWELL :

Anne Ancelin Chutzenberger, 90 years old, psychodramatist and still on  
the go, shall make in Roma IAGP a demonstration of psychodrama, the  
last afternoon saturday, -and thes groups to help to promot  
psychodrama, internationnaly

as adam blatner (bellow) what's thinking and hopping to promot  
psychodrama internationaly

anna as in paris and french school of psychodramea with many people  
coming from far and abroad (many countrys) with colette esmenjaud  
since some years and for many years in the futur,

in rome, anne as althought the last day in the morning, saturday  
august 29 and round table on transgenerationnal links : shes uses  
psychodrama vignettes to work in family secrets and transgenerationnal  
links

ses you soon at the end of august 2009 in roma

i shall be staying in the ergife palace hotel, where the main IAGP  
congress events shall be

and for the all the duration of the congress

she drive there door to door with a friend to french alpes and back

best of best and warmly to all and everyone of you

anne (paris and french alpes)


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> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:35:35 +0000
> From: thana ag <anathga at hotmail.com>
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> To: adam blatner <adam at blatner.com>, <pirkko.hurme at perendie.fi>
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> Well done,
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> anath
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>> From: ablatner at verizon.net
>> To: pirkko.hurme at perendie.fi
>> Subject: follow-up
>> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:40:16 -0500
>> CC: list at grouptalkweb.org; Tianmanhattan at aol.com
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>> Dear Pirkko, reviewing your email question:
>> PH in Finland: I would like to up-date my understanding on  
>> dependency & addiction
>> problems. What readings would you recommend?
>> Could I find some articles in internet? My main interest is  
>> theoretical.
>>
>> AB: Hi Pirkko, although there is tons of research that you could  
>> access, perhaps using an
>> internet search engine, I dared to take the question and allow  
>> myself to think about it.
>> What came out was the following:
>>
>> There are scores of theories of addiction. Here are some of my own:
>>
>> 1. Most people are vulnerable because of a fundamental alienation  
>> and a desire to
>> escape conventional reality. Many things can contribute this, but I  
>> think we should
>> imagine it as an aggregate experience, with a certain threshold.  
>> Each variable might be
>> mild or moderate, but when their aggregate reaches a certain point,  
>> the escapist feeling
>> becomes a strong motivation in itself.
>> -- the subcultural tone---do friends think it's okay, and share in  
>> the enjoyment?
>> -- the level of being part of a group versus being a loner
>> -- having something else to do-- a job, family,
>> having those as enjoyable or not
>> -- having any sense of life purpose
>> -- having any strong or guiding religious or spiritual belief
>> -- some slight genetic predisposition, perhaps
>> -- having feelings of guilt, shame, fear, or other feelings from  
>> which one wishes to 
>> escape (e.g., PTSD)
>> (i.e., drugs/alcohol as self-medication for numbness)
>> -- having contexts for drug/alcohol use that add to the pleasure...  
>> when I'm 
>> drunk/high, I do x and that's even more fun
>> -- modeling, having had admired people (e.g., a parent) who indulged
>> -- accessibility, newness of substance, being modern, fashionable.
>> alcoholism very prevalent and severe in the century after  
>> distilling spirits as
>> a technology became widespread
>> -- cheapness of the source of the high
>> -- boredom, are there other things to do, as inexpensively?
>> -- dulled by work and other life experiences (and many people feel  
>> that way, not 
>> knowing how to access true vitality and aliveness without  
>> intoxicating substance), the
>> drug or alcohol at least for a while feels more "alive" and  
>> sometimes people not only feel
>> numb, but the opposite, more alive, vibrant, excited by life,  
>> interested, insightful (even
>> if this is illusory and little of it is remembered)
>> reinforced if this temporary adjusted state does result in freer  
>> performance,
>> etc.
>> -- 
>> -- etc. Might do a sociodrama for this, get others' inputs.
>>
>> Problem is that papers tend to be scientific to please editors who  
>> think that scientific
>> is more respectable, prestigious, than case-study approach.  
>> Nomothetic versus
>> ideographic -- statistical versus case-study--- this issue of what  
>> kind of research is
>> more appropriate for non-trivial questions in psychology--- this  
>> clouds the issue, because
>> science can't really assess well any situation in which there may  
>> be scores of variables.
>> So the problem of saying something obvious: That there isn't one  
>> cause, can't get
>> published. But it's so obviously true, and why shouldn't it be?
>>
>> On my website I have a paper about
>> http://www.blatner.com/adam/psyntbk/aggregatexperiences.html that  
>> seems to apply here,
>> now that you've raised the issue.
>>
>> What do you think? Warmly, Adam
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> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:21:33 +0000
> From: thana ag <anathga at hotmail.com>
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> Hi Adam,,
> I will be presenting at the Congress in Rome,and thanlks much for  
> your ideas.,especially I like your idea of the International PD  
> Journal.Sorry you are not coming.
> warmly,
> anath garber
>> From: ablatner at verizon.net
>> To: iagp-psychodrama at yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: IAGP Rome Conference
>> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:49:05 -0500
>> CC: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>> In anticipation of the IAGP conference in Rome, although, alas, I  
>> can't be there, I do
>> want to suggest a number of things that can be done to promote  
>> international psychodrama:
>>
>> 1. Consider discussing the founding of an international psychodrama  
>> journal. Some of
>> the articles in, say, the Korean journal, have been in English, and/ 
>> or some articles might
>> be translated and bilingual. It might save costs, and it might also  
>> be done as an
>> e-journal, in keeping with the advancing internet technology.
>>
>> 2. Please encourage colleagues to summarize developments in  
>> psychodrama in your
>> country. Some might write about the earlier history, and some might  
>> focus on what's been
>> happening more recently. We've had articles in the past in the  
>> Journal in the United
>> States about developments internationally, and perhaps we can  
>> update those. I would be
>> happy to send people copies of past articles that have dealt with  
>> their country, and of
>> course, it would help if people would know about and check my  
>> website regarding
>> http://www.blatner.com/adam/pdntbk/internatnews.htm
>> Some topics that may be included (as a warm-up), but none of this  
>> is required.
>> - Numbers of people involved (rough estimates okay!),
>> - numbers at national or regional conferences
>> - presence / absence of newsletter
>> - Which books they use for resource reading,
>> -- what they've published in their own language
>> by their own or foreign authors,
>> etc.
>>
>> 3. There's also a photo directory, and photos of the various  
>> trainers and leaders in
>> the field can help to promote face- and name-recognition and  
>> overall group cohesion.
>> Please encourage people visiting http://www.blatner.com/adam/pdirec/index.htm 
>>  seeing
>> if their photo is there; if so, does it need to be updated? If not,  
>> perhaps consider
>> sending it in. If the photo is there but the caption---the  
>> descriptive words---are
>> inadequate or obsolete, just email adam at blatner.com with corrections.
>>
>> 4. For many other papers (which you're welcome to download and  
>> translate), other
>> resources, etc. please suggest to your colleagues that they visit  
>> my website.
>> www.blatner.com/adam/ or just to google me
>>
>> Best wishes to you all
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Tout de bon – Best of best
Anne (Argentière, Chamonix Mont-Blanc, French Alps)
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Anne Ancelin Schützenberger, PhD, TEP
anne.schutzenberger at orange.fr
http://www.anneschutzenberger.com