FW: dramatherapy? Psychodrama? Whatever?

Mon Aug 3 16:16:38 CDT 2009

I really think that at his best, he would be into the frame of the Words of
the Father. That is at his best. Of course, I can't speak for him. I think
what is important in acknowledging him as the progenitor of the various spin
offs is that then more people would look at these and discover more and
more. I am not sure that for example, the great Brazillian activist and
creator of such wonderful action methods, Augusto Boal gave full
acknowledgement to Moreno and that in spite of the fact that Zerka actually
awarded him acknowledgement of the highest order at one of the International
Congresses of Group Psychotherapy back in the 90s.
I had looked forward to a meeting with him a few years ago when he was
coming to the US for a tour and then he had to return home as he was having
some serious problems with his legs. I was appalled at the fact that the
congress that was held in Brazil did not acknowledge him or have him
presenting or someone from his group present there. I actually boycotted the
convention because of that as well as for some other reasons that it seemed
so conservative in its program.
Had Boal really gotten more into psychodrama and sociometry in particular,
his methods could have expanded even to greater heights.
So, that's my take on it all at present. For sure, I am personally offended
having to do at least in part as I saw Moreno as my father in this field and
despite some serious disappointments at times, he remains in that position
and his picture is on my altar at which I say some prayers every night and
day.
Be well, Blessings, Bud
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM, thana ag <anathga at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Dear Bud.
> Sorry it took so long to respond.
> So true: Moreno had the gift of empowering others to carry his vision.He
> did that to me: my carreer and professional confidence as
> atherapist/psychodrama director would have not evolved the way they  did
> were  it not for his "blessings" to me upon "graduation": to follow my
> creativity,and not worry about any rules(implying: his),
> Seems that many  did just that , evolved some of his ideas into a main dish
> without recognizing the progemnitor of the ideas.
> Now the Question is: would he be bitter knowing that people took without
> acknowledgement,that their names are more familiasr than his,or just as he
> let "The Words of the Father "to be published anonimously -and in linewith
> his belief that we are all Gods -smile and say: the sun does not ask to be
> acknowledged for every morsel of food we eat.
> Is it something we need ,rather than he?
> warmly,
> anath
>
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>
> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:26:53 -0400
> Subject: Re: dramatherapy? Psychodrama? Whatever?
> From: bud.weiss at gmail.com
> To: SaphiraL at aol.com
> CC: list at grouptalkweb.org
>
>
>
>
>   I haven't been saying much for a while and felt somehow moved to chime
> in here. In my experience, Dr. Moreno essentially gave his gifts away in a
> kind of replay of what he did with THE WORDS OF THE FATHER which as you all
> know was originally published anonymously for many reasons.
>
> He was, in my experience, incredibly generous around this support of people
> striking out on their own. At one point, I was astonished as he offered to
> give me the right to claim the copy write or patent to Psychodrama when I
> was working at developing a radio show using psychodrama on the air. He was
> quite lucid at that moment and was simply wanting to fuel my journey in the
> most powerful way. In conversations that I have had over the years with
> others of that time and before, he was constantly doing just that. Pushing
> you out into the world with his blessings to carry the ball over the next
> goal line.
>
> Paraphrasing what Eric Berne once said that everyone in the action or group
> or even just therapy fields owed a debt to Moreno and were subject to being
> jealous of Moreno as he has always been there first with the mostest. I
> think that is what has often been disturbing to me in that people have too
> often and for various reasons not given Moreno Credit for what he
> contributed. Berne was marvelously generous in his statements and at the
> time he made them, Berne's work and his method and organization was riding
> on one of the highest waves to be sure. I remember him repeating them at the
> 4th International Congress of Group Psychotherapy in Vienna in 1968 where
> Berne's group had the main stage and was the most prominent in that world
> congress.
>
> In my experience, similar to what Milton Erickson often said, "You are not
> doing Ericksonian Hypnosis! "No one other than myself can do Ericksonian
> Hypnosis. You are doing Bud Weiss Hypnosis etc." I have watched many of the
> highly acknowledged psychodramatists over the years and have seen a wide
> range of approaches in their sessions. It is the very nature of the work
> that it is spontaneous and open to creative extra and super reality that
> makes it so thrilling while having at its base a most rigorous theoretical
> and mathematical structure from which or through which we are free to
> wander.
>
> And so, we are all doing our own versions of psychodrama, Sociodrama,
> sociometry, role playing, theory, spontaneity training etc. regardless of
> who trained us or what tests we took or what we may call it in the final
> analysis. It is what we do and we simply owe a huge debt which should be
> regularly acknowledged to our ancestors and mentors in the field and of
> course, Moreno was one of the Giants and Zerka took on the mantle so
> powerfully to be sure the magic continued to be transferred from close at
> home.
> Blessings all, Bud
>
>
>
>
>
>  Thanks Ed for sharing this forward. I so agree with Robert that there are
> more similarities than differences between the two disciplines. I also see
> that Drama Therapists work in different ways. Some practioners are more
> actively into psychodrama than others.
>
> Again, I look forward to a time and a way that we can work together
> formally and informally to grow our field. And I continue to look to Zerka
> as a beautiful role model and mentor psychologically and spiritually to help
> us midwife a rebirth in this regard.
>
> Blessings,
> Saphira
>
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