Sociatric Practices of the Method

[CGayle]

Ed,
I love what you are describing here.  This Awakened or Awakening Force, or Presence, is what spiritual directors tune into and guide from when companioning others on their spiritual path.  Many do this through a silent contemplative process (a different kind of focus than meditation).  Currently, using expressive arts in spiritual direction are a leading edge in the field.  Both in psychodrama and spiritual direction, one follows what I call the Divine Flow.  Spontaneity and Creativity are the outward manifestations of this Divine Flow.  Spiritual directors, who use what is called the contemplative evocative method, follow the internal movement of this Divine Flow....and also look to the movement toward or away from this Divine Flow in the patterns in one's life.  

Where spiritual directors, or other spiritual practitioners, do not have skills is understanding what I call the movement of God between us.  Spiritual direction done in groups is an individual process in a group setting, with feedback from others.  Many spiritual folks want to live and teach living our highest spiritual ideals in how to treat others, yet don't have skills of how to get there when it comes to life in the complexity of groups, and thus in healing society.  

I am very intrigued with what you are saying about how the process of healing and connection to the Godhead impacts then sociometric connections in groups.  I know that is the core of psychodrama, yet you have much to offer in illuminating greater understanding on sociometry and sociatry.  I know you are leading workshops on this.  I also encourage you to write about his extensively.  I would love to read about this and get more detail and understanding!  

Godspeed,
Cynthia Gayle


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        From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
        Date: October 14, 2008 5:41:52 PM EDT
        To: "Ivo Banaco" <ibanaco at gmail.com>
        Subject: Re: Ken Wilbur


        Dear Ivo,
    I

        I want to print this out and think about it, add my thoughts to your work and organization 
        we - you mostly - are really onto something


        much of what an apprentice from a school is doing with me now he is
        taking the sociatric theories of Moreno, what he saw when he looked into the world
        and he is making them into formulas
        what is mind-blowing is that we are
        seeing the entire theory, all of it, method, theory, philosphy, techniques all of Moreno
        encoded into 3 codes
        in other words, each code is 1/3 of a whole theory
        the 3 codes, which is the whole theory, are pictures he drew to represent a whole part of the entire body of knowledge he left to us
        it is the interface and sequencing of the 3 coded pictures that is the most important - each sequence is different and is a whole other
        way of applying the method
        but here is the issue:
        the method is fundamentally about unlocking the psyche to an encounter directly with the Godhead
        and then
        stabilizing it within the being as an "autonomous healing center"
        and
        then AS THIS HAPPENS this autonomous healing center emerges in a group and reorganizes the sociometry in such a way it illuminates first the sociodynamic effect to the group and then - it reorders the sociodynamic effect into circles within the group, different ways of forming circles, which returns members to a role within a circle of life and returns life - to the circle.


        This is all happening in a group that I am working with at Lesley University in which I am finding-feeling-seeing myself "being directed by an Awakened or Awakening Force moving in me and directing me" which is what Zerka has taught happens to her, and now I know directly what this is about and now Lesley students are starting to feel this and begin to form cognition (language, expression, creativity) around the experience they are beginning to have.  The most advanced students are women of color.


        So, I welcome lots of conversation now and before I teach in Portugal.


        Ed

        On Oct 14, 2008, at 3:28 PM, Ivo Banaco wrote:


          Quite a challenge Ed!

          This quote by Moreno is so deep that I have to add other elements of the Ken Wilber's integral theory to the quadrants, namely levels, lines, states and types. In all quadrants there are levels, lines, states and types.

           
           
          For example, in the upper left, levels could be the evolving self from birth (e.g. pre-personal, personal, trans-personal) and lines (e.g. the multiple intelligences of the human beings  - see Howard Gardner – like the cognitive intelligence, spatial capabilities, morals, ethics and so on). Types are the horizontal differences, personality types, etc. States could be moods, but it is often used with reference the various types of spiritual experiences.

          In the lower left we have the same 4 elements but with different characteristics, levels of cultural development since the birth of humanity, different types of cultures, and so.

          For me when Moreno says "The discovery that human society has an actual, dynamic, central structure
          underlying and determining all its peripheral and formal groupings may one day
          be considered as the cornerstone of all social science." – I feel he found with his large vision these same 4 quadrants, this same dynamic, diversity, that is shared by all human beings at a deeper level. I see the point from which the 4 quadrant arrows develop as the big bang or the ever present origin from where we all were born.

          "This central structure - once it has been identified - is either found or discernible in every form of human
          society, from the most primitive to the most civilized." – the levels in all quadrants.

          "It exerts a determining influence upon every sphere in which the factor of human interrelations is an active agent - in economics, biology, social pathology, politics, government and similar spheres of social action." – All quadrants, all levels, all lines, all states, all types.


          Best wishes,

          Ivo 






          On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net> wrote:

            Ivo,
            How would you work with this quote, using the 4 Quadrants?

            The discovery that human society has an actual, dynamic, central structure
            underlying and determining all its peripheral and formal groupings may one day
            be considered as the cornerstone of all social science.  This central structure -
            once it has been identified - is either found or discernible in every form of human
            society, from the most primitive to the most civilized: it is the genesis of every type
            of society.  In addition, it exerts a determining influence upon every sphere in which
            the factor of human interrelations is an active agent - in economics, biology, social
            pathology, politics, government and similar spheres of social action.

            JL Moreno

            How would we "deconstruct" this quote and move it into the 4 quadrants?  I would be
            interested in working together on that!

            Ed

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