Sociatric Practices of the Method

[Edward Schreiber]

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>> From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>> Date: October 14, 2008 5:41:52 PM EDT
>> To: "Ivo Banaco" <ibanaco at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Ken Wilbur
>>
>> Dear Ivo,
I
>> I want to print this out and think about it, add my thoughts to  
>> your work and organization
>> we - you mostly - are really onto something
>>
>> much of what an apprentice from a school is doing with me now he is
>> taking the sociatric theories of Moreno, what he saw when he  
>> looked into the world
>> and he is making them into formulas
>> what is mind-blowing is that we are
>> seeing the entire theory, all of it, method, theory, philosphy,  
>> techniques all of Moreno
>> encoded into 3 codes
>> in other words, each code is 1/3 of a whole theory
>> the 3 codes, which is the whole theory, are pictures he drew to  
>> represent a whole part of the entire body of knowledge he left to us
>> it is the interface and sequencing of the 3 coded pictures that is  
>> the most important - each sequence is different and is a whole other
>> way of applying the method
>> but here is the issue:
>> the method is fundamentally about unlocking the psyche to an  
>> encounter directly with the Godhead
>> and then
>> stabilizing it within the being as an "autonomous healing center"
>> and
>> then AS THIS HAPPENS this autonomous healing center emerges in a  
>> group and reorganizes the sociometry in such a way it illuminates  
>> first the sociodynamic effect to the group and then - it reorders  
>> the sociodynamic effect into circles within the group, different  
>> ways of forming circles, which returns members to a role within a  
>> circle of life and returns life - to the circle.
>>
>> This is all happening in a group that I am working with at Lesley  
>> University in which I am finding-feeling-seeing myself "being  
>> directed by an Awakened or Awakening Force moving in me and  
>> directing me" which is what Zerka has taught happens to her, and  
>> now I know directly what this is about and now Lesley students are  
>> starting to feel this and begin to form cognition (language,  
>> expression, creativity) around the experience they are beginning  
>> to have.  The most advanced students are women of color.
>>
>> So, I welcome lots of conversation now and before I teach in  
>> Portugal.
>>
>> Ed
>> On Oct 14, 2008, at 3:28 PM, Ivo Banaco wrote:
>>
>>> Quite a challenge Ed!
>>>
>>> This quote by Moreno is so deep that I have to add other elements  
>>> of the Ken Wilber's integral theory to the quadrants, namely  
>>> levels, lines, states and types. In all quadrants there are  
>>> levels, lines, states and types.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For example, in the upper left, levels could be the evolving self  
>>> from birth (e.g. pre-personal, personal, trans-personal) and  
>>> lines (e.g. the multiple intelligences of the human beings  - see  
>>> Howard Gardner – like the cognitive intelligence, spatial  
>>> capabilities, morals, ethics and so on). Types are the horizontal  
>>> differences, personality types, etc. States could be moods, but  
>>> it is often used with reference the various types of spiritual  
>>> experiences.
>>>
>>> In the lower left we have the same 4 elements but with different  
>>> characteristics, levels of cultural development since the birth  
>>> of humanity, different types of cultures, and so.
>>>
>>> For me when Moreno says "The discovery that human society has an  
>>> actual, dynamic, central structure
>>> underlying and determining all its peripheral and formal  
>>> groupings may one day
>>> be considered as the cornerstone of all social science." – I feel  
>>> he found with his large vision these same 4 quadrants, this same  
>>> dynamic, diversity, that is shared by all human beings at a  
>>> deeper level. I see the point from which the 4 quadrant arrows  
>>> develop as the big bang or the ever present origin from where we  
>>> all were born.
>>>
>>> "This central structure - once it has been identified - is either  
>>> found or discernible in every form of human
>>> society, from the most primitive to the most civilized." – the  
>>> levels in all quadrants.
>>>
>>> "It exerts a determining influence upon every sphere in which the  
>>> factor of human interrelations is an active agent - in economics,  
>>> biology, social pathology, politics, government and similar  
>>> spheres of social action." – All quadrants, all levels, all  
>>> lines, all states, all types.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Ivo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Edward Schreiber  
>>> <edwschreiber at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Ivo,
>>> How would you work with this quote, using the 4 Quadrants?
>>>
>>> The discovery that human society has an actual, dynamic, central  
>>> structure
>>> underlying and determining all its peripheral and formal  
>>> groupings may one day
>>> be considered as the cornerstone of all social science.  This  
>>> central structure -
>>> once it has been identified - is either found or discernible in  
>>> every form of human
>>> society, from the most primitive to the most civilized: it is the  
>>> genesis of every type
>>> of society.  In addition, it exerts a determining influence upon  
>>> every sphere in which
>>> the factor of human interrelations is an active agent - in  
>>> economics, biology, social
>>> pathology, politics, government and similar spheres of social  
>>> action.
>>>
>>> JL Moreno
>>>
>>> How would we "deconstruct" this quote and move it into the 4  
>>> quadrants?  I would be
>>> interested in working together on that!
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
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