Ken Wilbur

[Ivo Banaco]

Quite a challenge Ed!

This quote by Moreno is so deep that I have to add other elements of
the Ken Wilber's integral theory to the quadrants, namely levels,
lines, states and types. In all quadrants there are levels, lines,
states and types.



For example, in the upper left, levels could be the evolving self from
birth (e.g. pre-personal, personal, trans-personal) and lines (e.g.
the multiple intelligences of the human beings  - see Howard Gardner –
like the cognitive intelligence, spatial capabilities, morals, ethics
and so on). Types are the horizontal differences, personality types,
etc. States could be moods, but it is often used with reference the
various types of spiritual experiences.

In the lower left we have the same 4 elements but with different
characteristics, levels of cultural development since the birth of
humanity, different types of cultures, and so.

For me when Moreno says "The discovery that human society has an
actual, dynamic, central structure
underlying and determining all its peripheral and formal groupings may one day
be considered as the cornerstone of all social science." – I feel he
found with his large vision these same 4 quadrants, this same dynamic,
diversity, that is shared by all human beings at a deeper level. I see
the point from which the 4 quadrant arrows develop as the big bang or
the ever present origin from where we all were born.

"This central structure - once it has been identified - is either
found or discernible in every form of human
society, from the most primitive to the most civilized." – the levels
in all quadrants.

"It exerts a determining influence upon every sphere in which the
factor of human interrelations is an active agent - in economics,
biology, social pathology, politics, government and similar spheres of
social action." – All quadrants, all levels, all lines, all states,
all types.

Best wishes,
Ivo


On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Edward Schreiber <
edwschreiber at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Ivo,
> How would you work with this quote, using the 4 Quadrants?
>
> The discovery that human society has an actual, dynamic, central structure
> underlying and determining all its peripheral and formal groupings may one
> day
> be considered as the cornerstone of all social science.  This central
> structure -
> once it has been identified - is either found or discernible in every form
> of human
> society, from the most primitive to the most civilized: it is the genesis
> of every type
> of society.  In addition, it exerts a determining influence upon every
> sphere in which
> the factor of human interrelations is an active agent - in economics,
> biology, social
> pathology, politics, government and similar spheres of social action.
>
> JL Moreno
>
> How would we "deconstruct" this quote and move it into the 4 quadrants?  I
> would be
> interested in working together on that!
>
> Ed
>
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