sociometry of training

[HV Psychodrama]

I think at one time, before I was a trainer, there was an attempt to have a 
federation of trainers and one goal was to have a common curriculum. I think 
this would be  a terrific idea...but I know from students who attend our 
directing intensives, ones who come from training programs all over the 
country, that many trainers still train by directing psychodramas with very 
little actual teaching and very little practicing directing skills. I 
imagine these different styles of training would prevent there being a 
consensus about what competencies are basic skills. But it is an awfully 
interesting idea.
Rebecca
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From: "Adam Blatner" <ablatner at verizon.net>
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> In the 1970s, I think the St. Elizabeth's Hospital (Washington DC) 
> Psychodrama Program created a syllabus for training---of sorts.
>   In the 1980s, Evie Lotze created a 3-volume training manual.
>       Eventually, it might be possible to create one that had the input of 
> a number of active trainers, reflected a degree of consensus, and might in 
> turn be used for new TEPs as an aid in their work.
>           Hm?
>        The ol' "pooling of different efforts" game?
>
>            The reason I don't do it is that I am not active as a trainer 
> now. It should be done by folks who encounter the most common problems in 
> training! What do trainers find themselves dealing with that makes them 
> sweat a little?
>    (Anyone can handle the easy stuff. As I saw at a tailor's shop: "Our 
> difficult customers are the ones that make us earn our money. Otherwise 
> the guy down the block could do the job at half the work and half the 
> price.")
>
>   warmly, Adam
>
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> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <drkatetsi at mac.com>; 
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> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:30 PM
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>
>> The Toronto Center has a very elaborate check list of specific skills and
>> experiences. Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute has a less elaborate 
>> check
>> list, but we do require students to show that they have attained a 
>> certain
>> competency in basic skills and once a student has had a couple of hundred
>> hours we meet with them to discuss their strengths and challenges, and 
>> what
>> they might need to do to meet criteria for endorsement. I suspect that 
>> that
>> is true of most ongoing programs. It can't even just be about hours as 
>> the
>> primary trainer must endorse the student based on clear criteria set out 
>> by
>> the American Board of examiners..
>> Rebecca
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Adam Blatner" <ablatner at verizon.net>
>> To: <drkatetsi at mac.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:20 PM
>> Subject: sociometry of training
>>
>>
>>> Kate Hudgins brings up another point that I want to echo.
>>>
>>> 1. She notes "...the way sociometry at work in China.  It is called guan
>>> xi......getting something based on your relationship connections."
>>>
>>> 2. Notes also that her training is measured by check-lists! Their
>>> supervisors assess hands-on skills according to these lists "...people 
>>> get
>>> after each time they are on a team.  As there have been many pulls to 
>>> pass
>>> people based on relationship that I have been able to resist by 
>>> returning
>>> to the checklists."
>>>    Wow! Now that I've thought of this, and the workshops I've done, some
>>> training activities, there has been a range of taking-responsibility an
>>> demonstration of competence" for which there are few built-in indicators
>>> or feedback. People just accumulate "hours," but with what quality
>>> participation? Mere attendance should not be the only criterion.
>>>
>>>         It is a risky topic indeed. Warmly, Adam
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