evidence based treatment

[HV Psychodrama]

Dear Anath,
I think the psychotherapy networker is a terrific journal...I encourage my students to subscribe. When it arrives i read it cover to cover, most of the time. When our own journal arrives I look it over, maybe read one article and then put it on a bookshelf. I so agree with what you wrote. But how do we get this across to the council who make the decisions?
Rebecca
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  From: thana ag 
  To: Erica Hollander ; list at grouptalkweb.org 
  Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 8:27 PM
  Subject: RE: evidence based treatment


  Hi Erica,Rebeca,Adam, Kate and Everyone,

  After some thought: Should  not our  journal be be something we  all look forward to read, and lok forward to share our insights,and learn from others?
   Think :  " The  Networker."
  What is the  point of a publication few  wants to read or write for,?  A decade of publishing research oriented papers,written  APA format ,did not yield much  respectibility for us in the field .
  During the  70ies and part of 80ies -the journal carried mainly process based articles,and we all looked forward to its arrival.
  It is of course possible that we do not ask the right questions to explore the efficacy of PD.
  Perhaps we could ask protagonists describe their inner experience as part of  publishing a process oriented article. 
  Accumulation of such reports may stir up relevant Questions..
  Dr. Gene Gendlin,author of "Focusing" set  out to explore  the efficacy of different therapeutic interventions,and  arrived to the following conclusion: the success of therapy did not depend on the therapist,or the method,but on the way the client  processed the material!.Since ,he developed "focusing " as a method to teach that process,which I was privileged to study with him  the U of Chicago.
   For all we know,the efficacy of PD may lie in the warm up portion,which when successfully applied  (sort of  a light hypnotic state) leads smoothly into  further  action exploration . We all know what happens when we fail to warm up  a protagonist,or  a group sufficiently.
  Just a thought.....
  anath garber

  > To: list at grouptalkweb.org
  > From: ericahollander at comcast.net
  > Subject: evidence based treatment
  > Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 11:51:35 -0600
  > 
  > I think there is a confusion in this discussion so far between 
  > evidence based treatment and statistically well supported studies. I 
  > question whether any treatment should ever be other than evidence 
  > based. If not based on evidence, on what? On blind faith? I hope not.
  > 
  > But the need for standardizing and supporting types of treatment in 
  > ways that make reliable and valid studies acceptable in esteemed 
  > major journals is a different thing, it seems to me. That is indeed 
  > something most psychodramatists have not much taste for, it would 
  > seem, based on past behavior. So perhaps Rebecca is correct that a 
  > practice based journal is more in line with what most practitioners 
  > need and want.
  > 
  > However, it surely would be fine if some of us would be willing to 
  > make the positivist case for the practice. I am sure that it can be 
  > made. I just don't know many of us who concern ourselves with trying 
  > to do it. Indeed, at Denver we work with a population that would 
  > make a terrific study, yet somehow the demands of practice are quite 
  > different than the demands of research, and somehow we don't seem to 
  > get it done, even though it would be well worth doing. And of 
  > course funding is an issue that plagues such questions. Erica Hollander
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