evidence based treatment

Sat Nov 1 16:43:33 CDT 2008

This talk of research pervaded my dreams last nite!!!!  I had read regina's email bf bed n thought about speaking about "process-oriented" research which is what I used to do my dissertation on doubling oh those 20+ years ago!  in process research u look at every few minutes of any session, say 5 or 10 minute segments and measure changes in the client/s as a repeated measures design so u only need a small sample of actual subjects.  I only had 16.  8 were a standard clinical intake interview n 8 received a experimental protocol of doubling split into:  10 min interview, 30 mins doubling, 10 minutes of Focusing and 10 nins of talk at the end.  All sessions were videotaped and evaluators looked at them in 10 min segments n rated them on a number of standard psych instruments.  The most interesting of use for pda is "the experiencing scale" that measures how deeply involved the person is in the process by such thgs as voice tone, affect and others I don't remember oh yes....self disclosure.

What I fd was that self disclosure n experiencing were random in the standard clinical interview n w doubling it was a nice controlled bell shaped curve.  It was published in 1981 and even received the APA graduate student award that year, probably the one pda experiment to do so! 

Later, karen drucker n i researched the tsm body double across 3 individual therapy sessions for her dissertation research n found similar changes.  That research was puib in our pda journal in 1999 and in BPA joiurnal in 2000.

More recently, Dr Lai nien wha from taiwan, has done two pre and post research projects with 6 month follow up on tsm pda with women who have experienced domestic violence.  Using a chinese trauma scale n the beck depression inventory she fd statistical clinical change in anxiety, depression n symptoms of ptsd and helped standardize our 3 day tsm workshop.  

She has just finished a one year long study of 12 wks grp, a weekend, 12 wk grp of her own combination of tsm, art therapy n classical pda.  Her results will be published in my new book coming out next year.

Dr Cho wen chun, also of taiwan is also publishing results of the team training process in tsm in the same book.

In your own land of OZ, peter, charmaine mcvea has published a number of research articles out of her dissertation studying pda.  One of her results with tsm will also be included in the new book.

Prof Deng in mainland china is also researching pda and will be director of research for TSI China opening next year.  He has already published some results in chinese.

So, research is alive n well in other countries than usa where the cultural conserve certainly has been no interest in research.  I thk one reason these others are doing research is bc they are trained as clinical or counseling psychologists as well as psychodrmatists and the cultural conserve for us is to do research so we sneakily find ways to do it on pda!

So maybe now I can go back to sleep so I can finish the last day of my 1st workshop in nanjing.

This is an impt subject.  I wish I did have more time to write n do research n hope that will happen as I continue to get tsm teams trained elsewhere n can travel less to asia.

Oh yes, chip chimera in uk has also done some pda research that is published.

So its out there fellow psychodramatists.  Kate
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On Nov 2, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Erica Hollander  
<ericahollander at comcast.net> wrote:

> I think there is a confusion in this discussion so far between  
> evidence based treatment and statistically well supported studies.   
> I question whether any treatment should ever be other than evidence  
> based.  If not based on evidence, on what?  On blind faith?  I hope  
> not.
>
> But the need for standardizing and supporting types of treatment in  
> ways that make reliable and valid studies acceptable in esteemed  
> major journals is a different thing, it seems to me.  That is indeed  
> something most psychodramatists have not much taste for, it would  
> seem, based on past behavior.  So perhaps Rebecca is correct that a  
> practice based journal is more in line with what most practitioners  
> need and want.
>
> However, it surely would be fine if some of us would be willing to  
> make the positivist case for the practice.  I am sure that it can be  
> made.  I just don't know many of us who concern ourselves with  
> trying to do it.  Indeed, at Denver we work with a population that  
> would make a terrific study, yet somehow the demands of practice are  
> quite different than the demands of research, and somehow we don't  
> seem to get it done, even though it would be well worth doing.   And  
> of course funding is an issue that plagues such questions.  Erica  
> Hollander
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